Sept. 19, 2024
Season 3 Finale: Transitions, Milestones & Our Year of Growth
In an unusual twist - we end season 3 in reflection. From a convo on air about “ball soap” - better known as squatch soap. We jump into the “how it all started” - unscripted amateurs with no plan, but a world of drive. Determined not to let paralysis analysis stop us from putting the rubber to the road. This convo very much highlights our Type 2 and Type 8 (enneagram) personalities - you’re going to be laughing right from the start.
From cooking in a kitchen that’s on fire - to actually being fired - our paths crossed at the exact time our faith in a higher power was making us unwilling to miss an opportunity like this. What does Mac Hollins have to do with our email reply strategy? Division of responsibility - that’s what - our unique personality differences have both influenced one another, and created a unique space to really lean into our strengths and spirit.
What’s in a perfect house? What’s makes perfect timing? What about the perfect pet? Or even the perfect job? See where we are going here? The only thing stopping any of us from starting - is likely just a set of limiting beliefs. But in reality - the world (of entrepreneurship) really is your oyster. From Jenny’s 43rd birthday - to our upcoming 1 year podcast anniversary - to unusual pedicures - and wedding photos - we reflect on this year-long journey that has us standing knee-deep in gratitude.
Reflecting on past goals and expectations, we share wisdom we'd offer our younger selves, questioning societal milestones and contemplating unfulfilled dreams. We discuss the evolving meaning of success and fulfillment, encouraging the younger generation to pursue their passions. Our chat touches on everything from Costco must-haves to holiday traditions, wrapping up with a nod to our incredible listeners. Join us in celebrating our journey, our evolving friendship, and the endless possibilities that lie ahead. Cheers to one year and many more to come!
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Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
00:01 - Unlikely Friendship Creates Podcast Success
11:46 - Podcast Success Through Friendship Balance
24:27 - Reflecting on Past Goals and Expectations
29:21 - Beauty and Skincare Discussions
32:28 - Holiday Cheer and Christmas Traditions
42:08 - Learning and Reflecting in Conversation
52:01 - Celebrating One Year Podcast Anniversary
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happy birthday to you.
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But you didn't see that coming.
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I didn't.
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I didn't see it at all.
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Oh my god.
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Okay.
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So we have, like this is kind of a big episode.
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It is, yeah, it's your birthday.
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Yes, number 43 today.
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Yeah, I love it, and it's our one year anniversary.
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It's our one year anniversary cutie.
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Who saw this coming?
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Not me.
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I literally was in costco the other day and I saw the squash soap, um, and I was sort of thinking about, like that's how it started.
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I mean, it's not exactly how it started, but there was a moment where we started talking about targeted Instagram ads and you were saying you're talking about a meeting.
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Yeah, you were in.
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And how you got targeted for ball soap after, because I worked in construction, yeah, I know, but I was shook because I had been buying the monthly membership.
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I thought it was shook, but you were literally so removed from it Like no, it's false.
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But I was like I am buying it, like I'm using it Every day.
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So we started the podcast last October of 23.
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And for those who haven't listened to the episode, it started from a little tipsy Instagram message from me to you Friends, messaging Equating Totally yeah, and it was like we should start a podcast.
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All I'm saying is we should do like mom to market.
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We were asking each other questions and you, in the middle, you were like we should have a podcast because the conversation was so funny, and I was like, yes, we gotta, we'll start Monday, yes, and then I immediately panicked.
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That's total panic, total panicked.
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I was like, well, wait a second Becca, I don't have equipment, I don't have a studio.
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We actually should do some research, because that's who I am, yeah, um.
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And so we shot a podcast at my house, in your office, with like a um microphone that I use for like zoom meetings, yeah, and we just kind of raw dogged it.
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We did never scripted.
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I was in a weird part of my life, so that's what I wanted to talk about.
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Actually.
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That was it.
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So I have, I agree.
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So we, you agree that I was in a weird part of my life, you were, but honestly I was too Okay, okay, I think, truly so.
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It started with the text message we showed up together Monday.
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It was like we're just doing this Like there was no, like yeah.
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It was like we're just doing this like there was no, like yeah, talking about it, what are we going to talk about, etc.
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It was just like, let's roll, I had never been to your house, you had never.
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We were literally like we were.
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I can't say we weren't friends, but we were acquaintances at best.
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Yeah, like you know those people, our kids have hung out a few times.
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They were very good friends in preschool, but this is preschool, and what they were friends over was the fact that they don't like other kids being crazy.
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Yes, so, and you can build a friendship off that.
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I'm actually just checking.
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Yeah, well, and we have similar senses of humor.
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Yeah, for sure, but we're very different people, which we've learned a lot about this year.
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Yes, we have.
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But I think it's interesting that, like we were, so I had just gotten fired I was kind of figuring out, like where I was gonna go, like what was my next move.
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So it was like a major transition for me.
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But you didn't know that.
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No, but I also didn't know that you were at a huge transition in your life, huge With your first husband.
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Yep, my first husband and my first marriage was dissolving, which I did not know.
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Yeah, we did not really talk about so, like no, I couldn't talk about it with anyone, right, right, but I'm just saying I think that it was such like and I don't want to get emotional, but I feel like it was such like I know it's going to make me tear up I feel like it was such a God move to put us together, yeah, like where we both were, cause I just like we really need each other.
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It's going to make me cry.
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Well, I have been so much more spiritual this year too.
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I feel like I've really leaned into like signs and like I'm very much like trusting my instincts.
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I'm, I don't want to miss anything.
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So I feel like when I said to you, let's start Monday, I knew that if we took too long, we would never do it 100%.
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Yeah, and that was scarier than messing up.
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Yeah, so I was like I had this.
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Basically, like, just imagine if you're navigating your life, but like your house is on fire behind you and you're just like baking for the neighborhood Like it's not a big deal.
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Yeah, like I never would.
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Like you're using the oven to bake with even though your house is actually in full flames, right, yes, and nobody could know.
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Nobody knew.
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Like, again, you didn't know I'd been fired, you didn't know I was at Crossroads, like it was so just the whole thing about it.
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And, truth be told, those things really didn't come out of us until January, like three or four months after we'd been doing this.
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So the failure episode, so New Year, new Dog, that whole episode, new Place, yeah, which is maybe everybody's favorite I was just going to say that's one of everybody's favorite episodes because we can see but then also the fear of failure the failure episode tends to be in the top three almost always, yeah.
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So it's crazy that, like that's kind of what brought us together and I think that's what's kind of kept us going Completely on instinct, completely which I don't do, by the way Like so for you to say I'm coming Monday, I mean I immediately you try to say no, a hundred percent.
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Like I'm like Becca, like let's think this through Like I don't know if I'm ready.
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So there are things about me that have completely changed because of our friendship, so same, okay.
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So they're like I used to be more um, and part of this isn't necessarily just because of our friendship, but I used to be more like regimented and like even let's use answering emails, for example, but because it's so important to you, I feel like I can like relinquish it, yeah.
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And now I'm like, do we really want our story to be?
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We answer your email within 10 minutes.
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But I understand where you're coming from, right, because they're like check it off, get it done, like move on the next day, yes, but I'm like I don't know about that message and I'm becoming like the Matthew McConaughey a little bit.
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I don't know the Mac Hollins.
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Do you know who Mac Hollins is?
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No, okay, let's talk about this really quick.
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Okay, mac Hollins is a Buffalo Bills player.
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You know I do not do pro football.
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No, no, no, I'm college all day.
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Mac holland, holland's, not collins holland.
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Okay is, um, I would say, a hippie.
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Okay, he never wears shoes during camp.
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He like cut his t-shirt into like little, like shred.
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He's always like the world is trying to change us, like we were meant to like eat from the earth, right, but he's definitely.
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He actually played a great game on sunday, but like he's his philosophy, like after the game on sunday, when they won, he was putting m&ms in water and he's like we're having, we're having chocolate water and he's just a little like okay.
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The first comment was I'm telling you something right now.
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I've never had chocolate water in my life.
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But if, if Matt Collins says we're drinking it, we're drinking chocolate water today, and I was like no, it was in water, but he's just a little bit like it's like the Matthew McConaughey of the Buffalo bills and I feel like if you cover this side, then I can lean further to like this side.
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I know you got it, yeah, no, and I definitely feel like you're that person who's like it's not that big of a deal, very much, but because I literally had to give up everything, I had to give up my dream of like my perfect house that I loved, like my perfect address, my marriage, like whatever it was, and like I'm not sad about any of that, but it was a lot to give up.
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I mean I really had to like it took me probably two years to get there, yeah Well, and I think that that's one of the things that that we have kind of shown, that you've shown that that's possible to our listeners, that it's like it's not easy but it can be done and I love that we both have like a balance right.
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Like you're going through your journey.
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I'm in a different place.
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I mean Nate still flipping pisses me off, yeah, but it's a different, it's just a different journey.
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So I feel like we've just really done so good at like having these like the yin and the yang.
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I always keep really honest conversations.
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Having these like the yin and the yang I always keep and really honest conversations, like I think, so honest, I wanted so badly for it to be fixed before I had to relinquish that marriage and like it wasn't, I had enough signs like it wasn't going to happen.
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But if I could give anyone a piece of advice about that now, like if I knew then what I knew now, because people kept saying it's going to get harder before it gets easier.
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It's going to get harder before it gets easier.
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It's going to get harder before it gets easier.
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But I read this thing the other day.
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That was like when women make these really big decisions, they've already thought about it so deep and so long that, like their mind is made up.
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Yeah, I wish that no one had ever told me that.
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Right, I think that was extremely unfair in the process.
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It's kind of like when people tell you that tattoos hurt.
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Yeah, yeah, not that bad, it ain't that bad, it's just annoying for a minute.
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I think they just say that because, like grown men want to feel tough about theirs.
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Well, I mean, it's just like anything else, like having a baby, all of these things.
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Having a baby is way worse, right.
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Or like having surgery, like it's not that big of a deal, like you feel okay, you'll be okay, but yeah, I just think it's been.
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It's been such a um, what an interesting year.
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It's been such an interesting year and just like, if I can say anything, I think it's just more of like women, men, whoever, because I feel like once you hit 40, you like I think that's part of it.
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We were just in that door.
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We just come through that door.
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It's just like you know, you, you know, I kind of call it a midlife crisis without, like you know, dyeing my hair brown and like cutting bangs.
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I'm about to, yeah, or like buying a Ferrari, but I feel like it's more of you know, what am I here for?
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What is my purpose?
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You know, what am I supposed to do?
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Is this?
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It am I going to work for somebody for the rest of my life?
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But I mean, I, you know, I guess what?
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What I would say with all of this is like we took a chance on something that could have gone either way, we still have no idea what we're doing.
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True, be told, we were like fucking up the damn thing trying to record tonight the first episodes.
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You always like it.
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We're just at the beginning and I'm like, oh my God, don't start at the beginning.
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We've grown so much, we really have, and we still like we share everything.
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We share everything.
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We are up to three deleted episodes.
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Is it two or three?
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Three anyway, and we have a few in the vault that are never coming out.
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We do just because we don't want to embarrass our children ever, but I think just, or we we made a recording mistake too.
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Yep, we've been there, done this t-shirt and we're still learning.
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I mean, we still don't know how to make video clips.
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I have I'm about to kill the fucking tripod over there because I can't get that thing working.
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I really need you n Nate, but no, I mean, I think we're learning, but I think it's just.
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I think people need to take a risk and do more things and if you aren't comfortable doing that, you need to find a friend who is Well, that's it Like.
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I feel like every time we get in a room where one of us is like completely confident, you know they can't hear you.
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I know Sorry, hang on, we got the dog.
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This dog always goes crazy when Jenny's over.
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I know she loves.
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I think we do a very good job balancing each other.
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So we've been in rooms where, like you, now she's out of breath.
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Hang on, let me get her.
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She's fine, she has water and stuff.
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She's fine, she has water and stuff.
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She's going to want you to feed her more.
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I love how she's blind until you have food in your hand.
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What I don't understand is how you can be blind until somebody's holding food and then you're not blind anymore.
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I mean rightfully so.
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Do you think?
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Well, he has like a sense.
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You don't think she can smell.
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She's making direct eye contact.
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She hasn't made that in four days.
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Put like a little ice cube in the floor, oh, she can't see.
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Bit of finger off.
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But I think there's been a lot of times where, like we do a very, like we've had people on the podcast say how do you guys balance responsibility and actually we very much flow with it.
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Like we have a very, we do a very good job assessing one another talents and like not really getting in the weeds about like the thing that maybe isn't our thing that week or that day, or even like our talent.
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Well, I think it's just been.
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We've been very.
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I think we're respectful of each other.
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So you have days you can't, I have days that I can't, and it's just like you cover me, I cover you.
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Yeah, it's very healthy, I think.
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So we did do some really good work, though in the beginning we like literally brought on a relationship counselor.
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Big shout out to raising marriage podcast, kirsten Hatcher.
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Yes, she's coming here for a girls' night soon.
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You're coming too.
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Oh, my God, I'm so excited.
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We're making claw clips.
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I love a claw, oh, I love a claw clip.
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But we're making like literally they look like friendship bracelets but they're claw clips.
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So she's coming for that.
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Taco Bell is coming, yep, coming, yep.
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Can we get talk about that night?
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Can we cater talk about?
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Probably like a party pack?
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Probably could.
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Okay, um, but when he's coming, and a couple other like fun little key players.
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Speaking of claw and hair, I am going to do a color consult.
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Where do you go for this?
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So there's this girl on instagram.
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It's called um.
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I sent Nate the link earlier.
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It's called like.
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She does it like everywhere.
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She's got like I mean a lot of freaking followers.
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So she basically tells you your season.
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Here we go.
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Image consultant maidenhead.
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That sounds dirty A little bit, but she tells you.
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But look at this.
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Like she tells you, like what colors you need to wear.
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Lord, that's so much better, right.
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So like what if she comes back and says I need to be like a brunette or like a redhead?
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Like what are we?
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I was a redhead in college.
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I loved it.
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I feel like you are a redhead, I pull red.
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Is that what it is?
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So that's part of it, because I have a hair point, so I have a hair appointment next week, but I'm concerned that we can't be both dark-headed, though I'm a little concerned about it.
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Should we have a conversation about next week, even though it's like out of balance, when this episode is going to air?
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I don't know what next week is.
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It's my wedding anniversary, oh shit, okay, okay.
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So we're out of balance Because this is a really important episode and so we're giving it time.
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But it's my wedding anniversary, and so I booked an appointment with my stylist, because this time last year was the time that I went in and I couldn't take my sunglass off because my eyes were literally glued shut.
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I had been hysterical for two days because I had already met with my attorney and then something happened and I knew that I had no choice.
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So I came in.
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But I didn't want to miss the appointment because she's young and this is important and I love her and I also, like I'm not going to just like blow off this for her eye financially.
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I couldn't take my sunglasses off yeah, we talked about this so she sat me in the back and did the whole thing.
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So we purposely booked this day to be back together to have champagne, do a recolor on my anniversary.
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But I have a question for you.
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This is important.
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I don't know what to do with the pictures because, like, I look really good on my wedding day.
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I mean, obviously, have you ever looked better, though, truthfully, because I have not, and I well, I don't know, maybe, but like I was platinum blonde at the time, like like elsa blonde I've seen the picture.
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I had a faux hawk.
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I really wanted my hair to look like a faux hawk.
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I wanted something really modern and like fun.
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So it's like a curled faux hawk and it has my grandmother's the one that my mom said has passed away, one of her old, like beautiful necklaces wrapped throughout my hair, because she was an air force wife and she did a ton of entertaining and like, had all this beautiful jewelry.
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But like, do we break it back out, kind of like the tambourine photo one last time and like, do the trevis kelsey?
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And like, put it, do we put it to bed or do we just get?
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We never use them again, I mean, because this is it.
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After this, I don't feel like I really can.
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You and I are different in that regard.
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Like I'm asking you right, I like is it offensive?
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I would never do that, but that would never put the bubble over it.
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No, but that, what would you do with it?
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Like nothing, like it's just, it's that chapter in my life.
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Like you don't think you need to say goodbye to it, though, no, I'm Libra.
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Like done, done, moved on.
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No, but if you're done, done and you have a great picture of yourself, like you can't just like put it back on the floor one more time.
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No, I would never do that.
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No, hard pass.
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No, but that's me.
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Would you have done it with a tambourine?
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No, oh, no, there's your answer.
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I guess no, but we were talking about galas.
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Yeah, I, I hear you.
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I just know that was not my nope.
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Hard facts like no.
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