Sept. 26, 2024

Finding the Joy in the Chaos, Spicy Romance & C'Mon Mama

Finding the Joy in the Chaos, Spicy Romance & C'Mon Mama
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Season 4

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One day, it will hit you. The thing that you want to be when you grow up and it’s probably not going to happen when you’re age 8, or when you’re 18, maybe not even when you’re 28. Who is to say that our calling comes up by a certain age? We invite one of our favorite bloggers and “influencers” (stay tuned to hear her take on this), Christina from @cmon.mama (Instagram) on the podcast today to talk, motherhood, relationships, and finding your true calling

This conversation is so near and dear to our hearts -  because her online journey started with a blog about her own motherhood journey, simple tricks that she found that she loved, sharing every day, trials and tribulations of being a mother and then navigating a pandemic. Everything from period panties to her favorite grape slicer. And now she’s writing a book.

And not just any book, a spicy book. And you know as listeners and followers, we love ourselves, a good romance. But we share an incredible moment on air as the three of us talk about how spice actually happens in real life, and the kind of relationship that warrants it . From rainbow jackets to teaching your kids to have a diverse palette, we celebrate her first decade as a mom, one another, and ultimately the spirit of motherhood. From school volunteer opportunities, to our own personal thoughts about influencers and how we like to be influenced. And our favorite 2 ingredient pumpkin muffin (mumpkin) recipe. 

The three of us get together to share some of our biggest learnings, and our proudest moments. And of course, we tackle the topics that are mainstays in motherhood – food Olympics, prioritizing self-care, and the art of slowing down, teaching our kids confidence and giving them the freedom to embrace their authentic selves (often at the same time we are learning bow to give ourselves the grace to do this). And if we’re lucky enough - we might just get to be beta readers for her novel! 

You can find Christina on Instagram @cmon.mama 

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And don't forget to leave us a 5 star review! Or message us to deep dive into your topic or just give us feedback!

Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843

00:09 - Celebrating Parenting and Playtime

08:21 - Parenting Anxiety and Travel Fears

17:21 - Motherhood Connection and Support

21:34 - Motherhood Communities and Authenticity

34:19 - Individuality and Motherhood Support

42:40 - Costco and Cooking Experiences

47:40 - Introducing Kids to New Flavors

58:09 - Family Dining and Food Choices

01:05:51 - Passion for Spicy Romances

01:14:14 - Pen Name and Personal Growth

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all right, hey guys.

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Hi hi, we have a third voice.

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We have somebody really fun with us today.

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Christina from come on mama on instagram is joining us.

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You, you guys.

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I'm so, so, so excited to have you.

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Yay, I haven't seen your pretty face in forever.

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Well, I got dressed today too, so I'm really pulling off the socks.

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Yeah, for sure, I love it.

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Okay, so we have known each other, we have a mutual friend, we've known each other of each other, for actually I was thinking about it last night kind of like a long time.

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Yeah, no, for sure.

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I mean, I feel like we met when my first was a baby, like a baby, and he'll be 10 next month which, yes, I was going to say.

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I was afraid to say put a decade on it, but I think we're talking about close to a decade.

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I think you're right.

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I know it's weird.

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It is crazy.

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I feel like 10's really big I'm surrounded by birthday presents on my floor for my daughter because hers is in two weeks.

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How old is she turning?

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She'll be 10.

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Oh my gosh, they're all right there.

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That's cool.

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Ten is huge.

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Ten's double digits Like two hands, and then I want to freeze mine.

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I don't want them to get any bigger.

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Same Mine's turning into like a teenager, like the arms crossed and the like, the sassy comments.

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I don't know that from I'm like give me the little baby thigh chunky back and the drooling.

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I like it yeah.

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It's fun.

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It's also so independent.

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I'm like shocked.

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I'm like we really did it, guys, 10 whole years.

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I feel like it's the perfect you should get an award.

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We should well, yeah, we should have been getting an award annually for 10 years.

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I don't know.

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I love it right now because they're so independent, but yet you're still like their world, right.

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And then I know that that won't last forever, but right now I still like he'll hold my hand and love me and he's so, so tender, but like he's such a big kid too and I know at some point the table's going to turn and I'm going to be like, oh no.

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Yeah, I don't know I think it could last forever.

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I mean, that's the dream, I think right, yes, that's what I'm hoping for.

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I think it could I feel like you're really close with your family?

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Yeah, really close with your mom, really close with your sister.

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No, that's all true, you're right.

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I mean, I think he's a boy and I always worry that he's so tender and loving and, like when I go volunteer at the school and stuff, he's the kid who will be like bye, mom, I love you, and he'll blow me a kiss in front of all of his friends, and he doesn't even think twice about it.

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And I see that other kids are like bye mom, don't talk to me, mom.

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And so I haven't experienced that.

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If I do, I think I'll be distraught.

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I think that might be just a testament to like how you live your life, though, like you have, and, to be fair, because you have this, we'll call it influencer status.

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Um cause, I want to talk about this a little bit.

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Like online, you have this online persona, and so you know, we all know that's maybe like 30% reality I like to think of it that way but you do a really good job.

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Like staying in the parenting weeds.

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Like we get photos of you guys like cozy on a Saturday at noon watching movies.

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Like you really give me the hall pass for.

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Like we're not wearing makeup today, we're staying in bed.

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We're actually still in bed at four o'clock watching Christmas movies.

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Like I remember one of my first like sort of taste of it, because we have this mutual friend was like oh, you know, know, I was talking about fingerprints on something and she was like I have this friend who loves the fingerprints.

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I can't believe.

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That brings back a memory for me first.

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Yes, so you're like that too.

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Yes, you annoyed with them because we're both right, but yes it's also.

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You were like photographing, cherishing them all over the fridge and the windows.

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Yes, which may make me crazy, but like I don't know.

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I mean I I just saw one the other day.

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It's so funny you say that because like the light came in at a certain angle and I saw this big smear.

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But then I looked and it was a handprint and I was like, oh man, that's.

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I used to look at those teeny ones and now this is like my size, yeah.

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But I just want to pause, like you're making me feel like a million bucks.

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I just got to say real quick, this is like the biggest hype thing.

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I'm going to come on here every day because damn, it feels good, that's what we do.

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We're hype girls.

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I'm being like so serious, like when I see those little things.

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Then, to be fair, like there was a part where you were very quiet because you had these other things going on and I was like, oh, I really miss her, like I cause it's not like you're not telling me to buy something every day, or you know you have your favorite things, whether it's like the grape slicer or whatever.

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We have going on yes.

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So like very specific random things that I love and.

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I'm like I feel the need to share this apple cutter or grape cutter, the mundane parts of life, right, but, um, no, that makes me feel good because, honestly, anytime I'm on there, it it's I feel strongly enough about something that I want to share.

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Or I'm like want to get permission and say like, yeah, we're not dressed at noon on a Saturday and guess what?

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That's okay.

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Like, why not?

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That's okay, it's okay that we are thriving.

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I, I to ask me tomorrow, we'll see today.

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Right now I feel good, yeah, we're.

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My kids are great, I mean, if they're happy, confident, that's like the number one thing to me for my kids, um, and feel secure.

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And I, oh, here's the thing.

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I have pretty strong feelings about this, like, I think, and women and women in particular, but just like the human race and also Americans in particular, we get so caught up in like always got to be doing something busy, busy, busy.

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It's almost like that's a badge of like how successful we are, right, how busy we are.

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So that's what our kids grow up seeing if we make it look like that.

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So I'm in this big rebellious streak of like I don't want my kids to find their worth on like how busy am I?

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Or mommy's so busy she has to do this.

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Daddy's too busy for this.

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So if we give ourselves permission to be like you know what?

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It's Saturday, I'm tired too, I just want to chill Then we show them that you can do that and then still, you know, excel at other areas, but not just I don't know.

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That's a big part of my parenting.

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No, I love it.

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I was going to ask you about that and I think one thing that I noticed when I do that, not only like the energy in the house, but in this I noticed in your house too, because you share it is like it starts to become this really big, like play time, and it becomes like this, like it's four o'clock before you know it and there's boxes cut up and there's tape everywhere and they're in their own world and it's like really amazing I love that.

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It makes my ocd crazy, but like it is.

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They're clearly having the time of their life and I have no idea what's even really happening, but they do but we don't.

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but they've like they know what's happening, right, they're in their own world, yeah.

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No, we have a table, our dining Like.

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I wish I could flip this around and show you.

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I'm going to send you a photo.

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Yeah, please, we have a big dining table right.

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We never use that table because we always sit in the kitchen at the kitchen table, unless, like twice at a holiday.

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But that is the designated Lego table and has been, oh gosh, almost two years, so it is completely unusable.

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It's covered in Legos and I remember it was probably a year ago.

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I looked at my husband and I was like how are we feeling about the Lego table?

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And I love it.

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Because he was like let it go, let it fly.

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And I was like I know what we have for a year, so I'm just revisiting, like are we still letting it go?

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Are we good with it?

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And he was.

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I loved his response because he was like they're into it.

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you know, while they're into it, let's let them be into it, and that's just a phase right, I mean one day you're going to look at that table maybe five years from now and they're not going to be there and it's like, you know, it makes me sad.

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My husband was the same way about like the big toys you remember, like the little, the baby toys that were like huge, the crawl through thing, and you know, it's like all over your house there's stuff everywhere and I'm like that's gonna be gone before you know it.

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You know, so I'm, I soak it up, just soak up every minute of it.

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I mean I do too and, like rebecca, you said you have to combat the ocd.

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I think all of us go through things where I look around and I'm like, all right, like enough, this is a lot.

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But then I clean, slate it, and I mean they've come home before and I like wipe the Lego table clean, but I did it because I was like they need a fresh start too, and they get right back to it, and then I love it again.

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So it's.

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You know, it's always the balance, but I do like to try to not like my not micromanage what they're doing Cause I would hate that somebody was doing that to me you know, yeah, but I think that's one of the reasons that you're getting the I love you at school.

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I feel like it's there, you're very connected to where they are at and like what they need, versus that like constant shuffle, like I love a weekend of no shuffle.

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Oh it is the best I had to shuffle.

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Me too, me too.

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But you almost have to rebel against it because it's like the status quo is go, go, go, go go.

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You know?

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No, don't get me wrong, I love to go, have fun and do things with them, but there's something about just not doing anything.

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Well, it's just rest.

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I mean it's just, it's the value of just like being home and in your jammies and cozy and just not feeling so pressured to do all of the things.

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Yeah, I mean you're right, we do enough, just like you said.

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I think it's an america thing, I really do.

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Yeah, I went to italy and they were not like that.

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They were like living their best life drinking wine for lunch, having a three-hour lunch break and I'm like oh yeah, what are we doing?

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an american thing.

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I I've wanted to leave the country because of it.

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In Spain they literally have these leisurely lunches and then go take a siesta and everywhere closes and it's like such a balance in other nations.

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And then in America we're like start working as early as you can, work as late as you can, take the quickest lunch break.

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You can make more work, more hours.

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Why, you know?

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I don't know.

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I got strong feels about that stuff, damn I'm, I'm with you yeah, I was gonna say too.

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So one thing that you've talked about in the past and jenny and I touched on this, but, like you and I have never had like a face-to-face conversation the travel anxiety speaking of other countries when you have.

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Can we talk about this for a second?

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oh my god, I need your take on it you have it too.

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Yeah, severe severe it's so bad, like I thought it was like like a real issue, like I'm like I need to go to the doctor, right it, kind of, is the real issue.

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I think I'm glad to know that you guys deal with it, because man is it?

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Because we're moms, is it?

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because we have so much like back at home, or is it like this thing never stops ticking, or like what?

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is it okay.

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So for for me, for, like, travel anxiety, it is because I have everything to lose.

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Yeah, I mean, it just boils down to that.

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I mean I, I like never thought twice about.

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I mean we used to go everywhere, jump on plane in a heartbeat, jet all over the world and you know what my mom would be a nervous wreck and I'd be like mom, come on, like, and she was always torn up and said, like I can't take a breath till you land.

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Yeah, even with me as an adult, you know, traveling with my husband, like growing up, and then I still continue to, when my first was a baby and even when my second was, but it got harder each time and then I just remember I was like I don't think I can do it again and I had never felt like that, but I didn't think I could get on a plane and go anywhere and it's the most impractical thing.

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Like, like you, I know the statistics, I know driving cars, dangerous blah, whatever.

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I feel, how I feel, and how I feel is I have everything to lose.

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Like what if I didn't come home?

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And I don't want to admit, like I don't want to miss their life selfishly too, I don't, I mean for me, I think that's it.

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What if for y'all?

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What is it?

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Oh yeah, I mean I think that's the same, but the funny part is it started the moment I knew I was pregnant, and that is a true story.

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I have such a vivid memory of driving back from Greenville, you know, which is like what, four hours away, yeah, and just I remember like I mean this is like really embarrassing to me, but I like cried because I'm like, you know, I have this little belly and I'm like, oh my gosh, what if something happens Like I'm supposed?

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Oh my gosh, like what if something happens Like I'm supposed to take care of her?

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So it started that early for me, which and it's just progressively gotten worse over the years, it's just the longer it goes, almost because you're like, you're entrenched in it and it's your world.

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So can you fly now, or or?

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oh yeah, I fly a good bit actually.

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I mean the funny.

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So I don't know if you listened to the episode where we went to Jamaica, but so, um, the the girl who would get my daughter if something happened to us.

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We went to Jamaica with them and she was like what she was?

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She was like what flight are we flying on?

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I'm like I'm not flying with you because you need see god and so I was like I don't want to be.

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You know, I I can't leave her with neither of us, so we're gonna have to fly separate flights.

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So that is so brutal and so like I get that a hundred percent it's, it's.

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It's a bit much, but yeah it is, but I get it Like it resonates with me.

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Yeah, but honestly, a lot of the listeners have said the same thing, so I don't think it's as weird as we think it is.

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Do they, do their spouses, feel the same way, or is it just like a mother thing?

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It's a mom thing Cause I don't think my husband like thinks twice about it.

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He's like do, do, he's like do, do, do, do where?

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we going what we?

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doing like, yeah, we're going somewhere, what are we doing?

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Yeah, no, I don't think he thinks twice about it.

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I think it's a little bit of a control thing too.

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I think we're so used to like managing so many things and like we know the majority, or like we might fool ourselves into thinking we know the majority of the outcome, right and so we're like, oh, it's all under control, like I already know what's happening after this, and then I know it's for dinner, and then I know what time is bedtime, and like it's all false right, because anything could happen at any time.

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But when you start to add in like a pilot and a flight crew and a plane and a different country, you're like, hmm, I'm not feeling awesome about this enough.

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I feel like that's where our kids learn the most is like being outside of their bubble and like getting into these other situations and the you know, languages they don't speak or food they don't eat.

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I just I think for me, I think that's why I want my daughter to go everywhere, because I just feel like that's such a great learning opportunity for her, because I don't want her to be scared when she gets older.

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So you guys y'all are going to I'm going to like this is the y'all are going to judge me probably.

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This is how crazy my anxiety on flying is.

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I got to the point where it was like I mean, I didn't know if it was a vehicle One time we booked a trip and my husband was like I honestly thought you weren't going to get on the plane like with me, but I did and we had a great time.

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It's like once we're there, I'm living it up, I'm great.

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For me it's the actual flying.

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I don't know why, but I think it's the lack of control.

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Like you said, I'm in control of my car when I'm driving, even though someone can hit me, but I have no control over the plane.

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But I am.

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I would like feel better if my kids are with me on the plane.

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Now my husband's like Christina, how is that better?

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Like if we go down, we all go down and I'm like that's so funny, yeah.

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It's just terrible Cause.

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Obviously, I don't want any of us to go down and of course, I'd rather, you know me go than them, but what I really want is all of us to fly, to do everything like that, which is terrible, but it's what makes me feel better.

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I don't know why.

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So I think that's nature nurture.

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I have this like I mean I always like in everything back to like animals or whatever.

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But I feel like it's the innate part where I have this like I mean I always liken everything back to like animals or whatever.

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But I feel like it's the innate part where, like you're like a, like a mama bear, we can we should talk about your logo and like the cubs, and you just feel a lot better when you can like head count, count them out Like you know where everyone.

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Sometimes I feel that way, even about school drop-off, and I'm just like, oh, like I just like it better when I can see you.

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Oh, definitely, I'm like much more comfortable, even if the situation we're in isn't incredible.

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As long as I got eyes on both of you guys, I feel like I there's a lot I could handle and that's probably completely false, but you're right, because he'll be like what would you what, what would you do?

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And I'm like I don't know.

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Save us all because, because I do it every day.

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Yeah, but I think it's what you said.

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It's because they're with you and that's like a huge safety net.

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And we took our first flight with the kids like three months ago maybe, and I swear my anxiety on flying was so much less and it was comical because they were with me and it was the first flight we had taken with them.

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And then he was like man, what is wrong with you?

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It's not all logic.

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Some of it's not logic.

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Being a mom isn't all logical, it's just very like.

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Some of that, I just think, is the animal, the innate nature, versus nurture.

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Like I want to see all my little ducklings.

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That's a good theory.

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Yeah, I think there's something to that.

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I think you're right.

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Actually, that's why we're in school all the time and doing other things.

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I'm like, let me just that's true Get eyes on you real quick.

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Oh for sure.

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I want to listen to how your teacher talks to you.

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I want to see what it's like in the hallways.

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Let me see this lunchroom.

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No, the only reason I always get tickled at my kids' school because I love when they allow volunteer opportunities right To go into the school, particularly because of all of our kids are the same age.

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I feel like they started going to school in COVID and you have to put your foot in the school right and you just it was kind of like here you go and you don't know what's going on.

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So I love doing it, but I have told the people who coordinate it like I'm a selfish volunteer.

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I'm only volunteering there with FaceTime with my kid.

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I'm not trying to like go do other stuff unless I can see my kid, so but that's the same thing.

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It echoes back to like cause.

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I just kind of want to make sure, like you, good, all good, a hundred percent.

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What I'm doing there is checking on my kids and then my friend's kids.

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Yeah, oh yeah.

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And then the minute you leave you're like sending little types Like I saw this person, I saw that person and then the pictures they're having a great day.

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So much of them think about it that we cut, like that's what means something.

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I was in art class volunteering one time and I said this was so fun and the art teacher was like you know, you can do other classes too, we could really use the help.

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And I didn't even.

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I was like nah and I told her to her face.

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I was like listen, I love you and this is super fun, but I only am here to be able to be here for my kid, Like I'm not trying to do that with someone else's kids, you know.

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And she said I respect that.

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Yeah, I love it.

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Oh my gosh, okay.

00:20:35.910 --> 00:20:48.675
So tell us like, bring us through the journey, cause I know what you're doing now and I'm like beyond excited about it, but this all sort of started as like essentially like an influencer brand, right?

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I mean, I have the hat.

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Yeah, and you know what it did.

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So, come On, mama started.

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It started when my son was like three years old, right?

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Oh, it was right when my daughter was born, and you're just like walking through motherhood and I feel like as parents, we're all living like different versions of the same thing, right, but we're kind of living parallel lives, like we're all going through the same stuff.

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And it started because I just needed an outlet for all of that and I kept finding things that were helpful for me and I was like man, I want other moms to know about this stuff and I want other moms to feel okay with having mom burnout and not feeling guilty about it and just all the different aspects through each little phase of early motherhood.

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When it began and it resonated a lot with moms.

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I mean, that's what we are all finding like that solidarity.

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It just feels good.

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So it did start out that way and it really grew fast and I got this great little community and we kind of just stuck together.

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Then I got hats with the mama bear and the baby bear in the middle, which is still like I love.

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I love that logo and I honestly I've sold hats up until like six months ago and I sold out and I haven't restocked yet and you know I it made me feel so good.

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I've had so many orders since then.

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I kept having to refund so I might bring back the hats because they're out there on the on the circuit somewhere, but, um, it did.

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It really started just as a way to connect with other moms and like a community of moms, so that and there are so many people on there that, like I recognize their handles that have been with me all these years and I feel like I know them and you know we talk I mean we talk separately on text, but we talk on there all the time the same way, when y'all share stuff that I love, I come in or I go get like remember those, those rubber bands that were cool with all the colors?

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Yeah, that your girls had.

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Yes, we still have those, we still use those and like absolutely the hair ties.

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Yeah, I'm obsessed with those hair ties.

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They're like my favorite.

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I haven't shared them in forever but I'm down to like my last three and I know when I go to rebuy them I'm gonna have to share them.

00:22:56.943 --> 00:23:03.873
And, like, we know so many influencers who like literally use their account to like make money right, and I'm like, okay, that's well.

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And I'm like, okay, that's well, we've talked about that here.

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But like that's obviously like not at all how you and I show up.

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Like if it's like a cutting board that changes my life, I'm going to share it.

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Yeah, like I randomly I started using like beef tallow as like my face cream and I was like this is going to be awkward, but I'm going to talk about it.

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Do you like it?

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Yeah, like I'm obsessed with it.

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Wow, it only has two ingredients.

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It's like literally olive oil and beef tallow.

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Huh, and I'm like what's?

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great.

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So what's going to happen?

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I was like what is going to happen?

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Everyone's like are you going to break out?

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I'm like I have no idea.

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I have not had one breakout, except I took a flight to New York for a funeral a few weeks ago and I got three zits on the plane and I was like wait a minute, my beef tallow would have never done this to me, but in flight air for sure Got me good.

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You can't be dirty, but like so cool.

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We'll like talk about these random things and it's like the hair ties.

00:24:03.823 --> 00:24:06.628
It's nothing that any of us are like retiring over.

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No, and you know what that was very deliberate, like at the beginning.

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I would say I grew really quickly and honestly I have not tried like the beginning I wanted to reach moms and and I don't have like a huge account at all but it grew fast.

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And then I have never tried to do anything strategic to like grow because all of it felt so just not real and like heavily curated.

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And then I would at the beginning, like approach brands that I loved, or like toy companies that I was obsessed with their toys that I loved, or like toy companies that I was obsessed with their toys and they were always so receptive.

00:24:48.425 --> 00:24:58.978
But the parameters for like having partnerships with them were like very, um, forced coverage of your kids with these things and I didn't really want to do that.

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I'm happy to get on here and be like guys you know with my phone, I love this, this, this and this, or like let me tell you about this Costco salmon that I love and stuff.

00:25:04.673 --> 00:25:08.130
Like guys you know with my phone, I love this, this, this and this, or like let me tell you about this costco salmon that I love and stuff like that.

00:25:08.130 --> 00:25:09.692
But is it the?

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pesto.

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Yes, oh my gosh, it's um.

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I'm not eating this one.

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Is it good?

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Oh my gosh, it's in the pre-made with like oh my god, it's a ball of butter right yes and listen, it's already.

00:25:23.548 --> 00:25:24.650
you cook it in that thing.

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It's like 30 minutes.

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Even my kids love it.

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At this point, like that is.

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It makes me feel good about myself because I feel like it's so good.

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It's good, but that's the thing.

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Like I did, I didn't like doing and I did it a couple of times, but they let me do it the way I wanted.

00:25:41.843 --> 00:25:55.592
But I just very quickly realized like I don't want to be that kind for me, I love and I get influenced by other people you know who do that and it works because I'll be and they might genuinely be telling me about something.

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But I just didn't like want to do photo shoots with my kids, like holding the products, even though I get that that's marketing and that's great advertising.

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I don't know, though I feel like that's a little bit of a miss, because, from a mom perspective, I don't I want to hear your like take, as a mom, I don't necessarily want to watch kids play.

00:26:16.442 --> 00:26:25.026
So I think, yeah, I think they thought that that was necessary, but, like, personally, I don't really want to watch kids play with toys.

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I can do that at home.

00:26:26.228 --> 00:26:32.689
I want the mom version of, like, how this actually worked out, because I could put anything in front of my kids and they would love it.

00:26:32.689 --> 00:26:34.643
Exactly, exactly.

00:26:34.643 --> 00:26:36.788
I need to know, like do we have longevity here?

00:26:36.788 --> 00:26:39.161
Is this like, how long are they going to play with this?

00:26:39.161 --> 00:26:41.683
Is the Lego table going to live for two years?

00:26:42.244 --> 00:26:47.971
No, I agree that those are the ones like the candid raw, like moms talking to moms.

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That's how I feel too, a hundred percent.

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But and and I feel like, like God, there's so many sacred family moments and like why cheapen it?

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Although I'll tell you why cheapen it?

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Cause you can make money.

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I mean, it's really true, you, you definitely can.

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But I'd rather figure out a different way.

00:27:09.368 --> 00:27:16.896
And like I used to blog with come on mama, that was like how it all started, actually, as a blog had an article on like the handprint thing.

00:27:16.896 --> 00:27:25.664
This is like what y'all do, so you know everything.

00:27:25.664 --> 00:27:28.355
But I still get hits on all of those initial blog articles from like seven years ago.

00:27:28.355 --> 00:27:37.564
I haven't touched my site in years, but those things still resonate, cause it was like me talking about period panties and I mean like that was revolutionary to me.

00:27:37.564 --> 00:27:42.701
I was so vocal I can't even believe that people didn't know about it because nobody was talking about it.

00:27:42.701 --> 00:27:45.227
So I was like I'm going to tell, I'm going to tell people.

00:27:45.227 --> 00:27:50.769
So it makes me feel good that y'all feel like that's the kind of thing you like, cause that's what I like too.

00:27:51.211 --> 00:27:51.653
Well, I mean the.

00:27:51.653 --> 00:28:07.038
So the period panties is actually a really good topic of conversation, because I feel like we all have at least one girl, I have two, um, and now I have friends who were like actually starting to have this conversation about like okay, what happens next?

00:28:07.038 --> 00:28:08.305
Now we're turning 10.

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Now we're turning 11.

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Like what is the plan?

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And so this conversation has like evolved for me, because I've been like sharing it, yeah, but I don't have that much information on it and I'm like, oh my gosh, okay, we need to like re, we need to dig up this period of panty conversation.

00:28:26.681 --> 00:28:28.126
I can talk about those with you all day.

00:28:28.126 --> 00:28:30.054
I'm passionate about those.

00:28:30.054 --> 00:28:37.692
But one of the reasons I will say is because can you imagine being a young girl and having that option?

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Like, are you kidding?

00:28:39.001 --> 00:28:40.805
No, when was that when we were kids?

00:28:41.926 --> 00:28:48.647
No, and that was one of the things I wrote about, like not only for me, but like for people who have daughters.

00:28:48.647 --> 00:29:04.573
And now, you're right, as our kids get older, I was talking with somebody the other day and she was saying that her daughter is, I think, 12 and getting nervous, and my first thing is I was like you got to go get period panties, so it's coming full circle.

00:29:04.653 --> 00:29:06.381
It's an actual conversation I've been having.

00:29:06.381 --> 00:29:15.738
I'm like do you know about period panties and the amount of people who are still like, no, I know, wait a minute, I know this is like a game changer yeah, that's why.

00:29:15.837 --> 00:29:19.207
That's literally why I was like guys I know, like on Instagram.

00:29:19.207 --> 00:29:26.244
I know I've taught you about this before, but I'm gonna make sure y'all, like I felt strongly about women, need to know about it.

00:29:26.845 --> 00:29:29.951
Yeah, no, I was like maybe you should circle back.

00:29:29.951 --> 00:29:31.053
I'm like I should actually.

00:29:31.073 --> 00:29:35.507
Yeah, it's been a little.

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I'm like how do we cause now?

00:29:37.230 --> 00:29:38.355
It's like back to school.

00:29:38.355 --> 00:29:40.288
Now this is like a real conversation.

00:29:40.288 --> 00:29:45.825
We're out of swim season and I, you know, I don't know it's, it is a challenge.

00:29:45.825 --> 00:30:09.267
And like you forget how many resources are out there, or like we've come to you a lot for you, for you know, like the grape slicer, like when our kids were younger and we're learning how to pack lunches and like all the things that you worry about choking and all these things like somehow that's evolved into like periods and I'm like that's crazy that is crazy, actually, like the dichotomy of that that you just said.

00:30:10.510 --> 00:30:16.895
I mean that's kind of nuts to hear it and I'm living it, but you saying it brings it home, honestly.

00:30:17.967 --> 00:30:21.597
I know it's really a shock, like the year 10 thing is really a shock.

00:30:21.597 --> 00:30:24.329
I know you have two kids.

00:30:24.329 --> 00:30:27.412
Yes, I love your stories with them.

00:30:27.412 --> 00:30:29.953
So there's, you have an older son and a younger daughter.

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And he is about to be 10.

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And then my daughter is seven, she'll, she's like seven and a half, yeah, yeah, which is like such a fun age.

00:30:37.767 --> 00:30:38.528
I like love.

00:30:38.528 --> 00:30:39.451
Oh, yeah, some.

00:30:39.451 --> 00:30:42.518
It's about to be seven in October and I like I love.

00:30:42.518 --> 00:30:45.819
I love all the ages and I'm gonna like, I feel like every age.

00:30:45.819 --> 00:30:46.765
I'm like, oh, this is my favorite.

00:30:46.765 --> 00:30:51.596
Yeah, I really loved four, six, has she's like hoop Um.

00:30:51.596 --> 00:30:56.586
But our youngest daughters have very different styles.

00:30:56.586 --> 00:31:09.413
So like I'm obsessed with her style Cause it's all like sparkle tool and like, yes, and I mean I, yes, okay.

00:31:09.453 --> 00:31:14.787
So I would say that this is a big thing, since this is like we talk about mommy and stuff.

00:31:14.787 --> 00:31:26.414
One of the I would say one of the things that I am proud of in my parenting journey is letting them be them Like, just letting them be who they are.

00:31:26.414 --> 00:31:48.964
I, they, they totally dress themselves in my and always have like I've let them pick whatever and it would look ridiculous and I embraced it Like I remember one year for picture day, my son knew it was picture day, he was probably seven, cause I feel like it was first grade or six but he put on like basketball shorts in this button down, which was hysterical together.

00:31:48.964 --> 00:31:55.992
But he felt like he came out and I said you look awesome and I, I thought about it.

00:31:55.992 --> 00:31:59.145
I'm like man, I am so glad that they are confident enough to wear what they want.

00:31:59.467 --> 00:32:05.267
But my daughter takes it to a new level, like I don't even know where she comes up with this and it's not me.

00:32:05.267 --> 00:32:18.848
I would say that I, on on a daily basis probably, I'm like y'all, like usually wearing yoga pants, sweats, jeans and like a t-shirt, um, but when I get dressed up for a date night, I definitely dress up and that's what she sees.

00:32:18.848 --> 00:32:22.500
I guess I don't know, but she is like sparkle everything.

00:32:22.500 --> 00:32:30.436
She does amazing cool things with her hair, combines things I never would and she's so confident about it and I'm obsessed with it.

00:32:30.457 --> 00:32:35.894
I was going to say you kind of like dress to her now too, I totally do.

00:32:35.894 --> 00:32:46.366
That's what I was just going to say I'm like you started doing this thing where, like you share outfits and they're like more her vibe, you're like I bought this because she would love it.

00:32:46.366 --> 00:32:48.009
Like, this is my vibe.

00:32:49.912 --> 00:32:52.955
Yeah, my vibe, her vibe, yes.

00:32:52.955 --> 00:32:57.246
So what I realized quickly is that I put on a red.

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This is I put on a red dress one day this was probably like I mean, years ago and both kids were like, oh my gosh, mom, you look incredible.

00:33:07.153 --> 00:33:10.367
I had no hair or makeup, done Nothing, it was just this.

00:33:10.367 --> 00:33:20.487
I had put on this red dress before I got like fully dressed and I thought, dang, like, huh, okay, so they like me not in just the basic.

00:33:20.487 --> 00:33:22.069
That's how it started.

00:33:22.069 --> 00:33:28.569
And then, yes, I totally do so, for, like, I have this sequin, amazing rainbow sequin jacket.

00:33:29.010 --> 00:33:38.526
Every time I go to school and do something with my daughter's class, I wear it and, of course, she's so proud Her friends are all like, oh my gosh, your jacket's amazing.

00:33:38.526 --> 00:33:40.772
I mean, that's another thing that makes you feel good.

00:33:40.772 --> 00:33:41.674
Like you wear stuff.

00:33:41.674 --> 00:33:45.412
Kids like and they think you, they're like obsessed with you, right?

00:33:45.412 --> 00:33:55.013
So, like holidays, I am the mom that will wear the ridiculous, ridiculous holiday earrings and stuff, because my kids love it.

00:33:55.013 --> 00:34:00.672
And as long as they love it, you better believe I'm going to wear it, because they're not at a point where they're like mom, don't wear that.

00:34:00.672 --> 00:34:04.775
They're like oh, I love those giant skeletons hanging down from ears.

00:34:04.775 --> 00:34:05.576
Those are amazing.

00:34:05.576 --> 00:34:07.352
I like the gift wrap ones.

00:34:07.352 --> 00:34:08.751
I like the sparkles.

00:34:08.751 --> 00:34:10.612
I wear my rainbow shoes.

00:34:10.612 --> 00:34:14.126
I definitely.

00:34:14.126 --> 00:34:17.954
When it's anything to do with them, I dress for them and I have fun doing that actually.

00:34:18.795 --> 00:34:19.317
No, I love it.

00:34:19.317 --> 00:34:27.371
I was in a boutique the other day and I saw a rainbow skirt and I sent you a picture and I don't know if I wrote you back specifically about that.

00:34:27.530 --> 00:34:28.512
I almost bought that.

00:34:28.512 --> 00:34:30.418
I had it up there and I saw it.

00:34:32.144 --> 00:34:33.528
You were like I know exactly where you are.

00:34:33.528 --> 00:34:35.994
I almost bought that and I was like, well then, here's your sign.

00:34:36.135 --> 00:34:41.864
You need to come back and you know who was with me my daughter and she was like, mom, look at this skirt.

00:34:41.864 --> 00:34:43.608
And I was like I think I have to get it.

00:34:43.608 --> 00:34:48.215
So, yes, I totally dress um to them and to both of them.

00:34:48.215 --> 00:34:53.088
Like, my son has a thing that he does, that if he ever stops I'll be devastated.

00:34:53.088 --> 00:34:55.235
He wears different colored shoes.

00:34:55.235 --> 00:35:02.996
He started doing it like three and a half years ago and has done it since then and it's just, I don't even know why it started.

00:35:03.016 --> 00:35:21.217
I got him two shoes from Amazon, like an orange pair and a green pair, because they fit and he liked them and they were like, and then he just put them on one on each foot and since then he's done that and now he's in like a man size seven, which that's bizarre, okay, oh my gosh.

00:35:21.217 --> 00:35:26.512
Yeah, he, I have a nine size foot, so like, not a small foot, you know, and he wears the same size.

00:35:26.512 --> 00:35:31.349
So it's gotten trickier as he's gotten older because shoes are more expensive.

00:35:31.349 --> 00:35:37.574
I'm like, like, so I need duplicate shoes, the same style, different colors so he can keep doing his thing.

00:35:37.574 --> 00:35:40.592
But I love seeing them have that individuality, you know.

00:35:41.476 --> 00:35:44.173
Yeah, I think that's you do such a good job embracing it.

00:35:44.173 --> 00:35:46.954
I feel like that's like we all try so hard.

00:35:46.954 --> 00:35:52.875
I feel like that's one of the reasons I like love your Instagram so much is like every time I like get a little far from it.

00:35:52.875 --> 00:36:03.271
It's almost like you seem to feel the need to like post something like on the weekends, or like being in bed at noon watching a Christmas movie in the middle of July and I'm like, oh yeah, okay, got it.

00:36:03.271 --> 00:36:05.137
That was the validation that I needed.

00:36:05.565 --> 00:36:11.757
But see, I feel like that about your things too, Like I feel like we all help give each other a dose of, and it helps.

00:36:11.757 --> 00:36:13.367
But wait, so what's your daughter's style?

00:36:13.367 --> 00:36:14.510
Cause you said it so differently.

00:36:15.012 --> 00:36:16.275
Well, so my youngest is.

00:36:16.275 --> 00:36:20.574
She was born in October and she's very Halloween, so like when we.

00:36:20.574 --> 00:36:24.208
So my oldest everything is like she has a skincare routine.

00:36:24.208 --> 00:36:28.998
She like literally earns like money now to get like.

00:36:28.998 --> 00:36:34.070
I was at Kohl's the other day to do an Amazon return and my youngest found like a toy and I was like I'll buy it for you.

00:36:34.070 --> 00:36:35.615
She was like, should we get two?

00:36:35.615 --> 00:36:38.110
And I was like, no, we'll just give pilot the money.

00:36:38.110 --> 00:36:41.336
So like she earned like 14 just because.

00:36:41.336 --> 00:36:45.311
And she's like, oh, I want to go to Ulta I love, oh my gosh.

00:36:45.311 --> 00:36:48.945
So like she has three drawers of skincare in her thing.

00:36:48.945 --> 00:36:52.496
Everyone, every time anyone gives her like Amazon gift cards.

00:36:52.496 --> 00:36:53.447
It's like skincare.

00:36:53.447 --> 00:36:56.393
It could be like just like cotton pads.

00:36:56.393 --> 00:36:57.396
It could be anything.

00:36:57.396 --> 00:36:59.512
If she has money, it's going on skincare.

00:37:00.074 --> 00:37:00.996
Oh my gosh.

00:37:00.996 --> 00:37:03.728
They're going to all look that generation, then they're going to.

00:37:03.728 --> 00:37:05.472
They're going to be like way ahead of the game.

00:37:05.472 --> 00:37:06.135
I don't think I said.

00:37:06.664 --> 00:37:10.248
I like washed my face until I was, like out of college.

00:37:11.309 --> 00:37:13.951
And then it's like all like athletic wear.

00:37:13.951 --> 00:37:23.719
So it's like the skirts from old Navy or the leggings that have the matching sports bra crop top, and then it's always like an oversized sweatshirt, which is very much my style.

00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:29.347
I mean that's like five, yeah, I love it, but it's like very particular.

00:37:29.367 --> 00:37:39.672
So there's a lot of money in Old Navy sportswear and then skincare and my youngest we went to Old Navy and it happened to be like the back to school time was right when all the Halloween t-shirts hit.

00:37:39.672 --> 00:37:42.353
We have like six Wednesday Addams t-shirts.

00:37:42.353 --> 00:37:44.670
I love it, though, and two sizes too big.

00:37:44.670 --> 00:37:45.045
She goes.

00:37:45.045 --> 00:38:01.371
You know, I like them oversized, so she likes them oversized to cover her shorts, and she definitely wore a Olympics USA sweatshirt for picture day and she came out and she was like I was like all right, man, she's like USA.

00:38:01.371 --> 00:38:05.632
I was like all right, I got her pictures last night.

00:38:08.949 --> 00:38:13.614
And you'll always remember like you put you wore that Olympic sweatshirt, you know.

00:38:13.634 --> 00:38:20.193
Yep Every day, and then they have gymnastics, so they have like their very glam you know, like sparkles.

00:38:22.827 --> 00:38:25.931
It's incredible to me, but their coaches do a really good job.

00:38:25.931 --> 00:38:34.079
One thing I really appreciate about our gym and that sport in general I'm obsessed with it because I couldn't as a mom you'll appreciate this.

00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:52.773
I was trying to find a way to really teach them how to be comfortable in their body and trust their own body and I was like, okay, to me that's like swimming and gymnastics, like you're you know, it's not about like what you wear always, it's about like how physical you are and like there's a lot of trust in gymnastics for yourself.

00:38:52.773 --> 00:38:58.347
It's not like a team thing, like the points count but you have to do what you do.

00:38:58.347 --> 00:39:07.210
And then when they go out there, there are girls out there that can do the craziest things you've ever seen.

00:39:07.210 --> 00:39:19.005
And then there are girls that are just 18 months that are learning to walk on the beam and it's all in the same section and like the mistakes happen in front of each other and the wins.

00:39:19.005 --> 00:39:31.547
And then we were watching the Olympics and people made pretty serious mistakes and so, like my oldest very much fights this battle with perfectionism, so it's really good for her to see that.

00:39:31.728 --> 00:39:40.708
And like, even the first time she fell off beam I mean we were at a competition and she fell off beam and she came, she finished and she got through the whole thing completely.

00:39:40.708 --> 00:39:44.648
So she just went straight to stone and I was like a great loop lost her.

00:39:44.648 --> 00:39:48.056
So she comes out to me and she's like I fell off the beam.

00:39:48.056 --> 00:39:52.836
I was like I know, and her coach was like yeah, pilot, it's four inches big, it's smaller than an iPhone.

00:39:52.836 --> 00:40:06.110
You're going to fall off it and moved right on and I was like I mean these are her coaches went to college for, you know, on huge scholarships, big genetics colleges, so they know what they're saying.

00:40:06.110 --> 00:40:09.275
And, like, her coach wasn't like this is what you're doing next time.

00:40:15.224 --> 00:40:19.898
She didn't even use it as like a teaching moment she was like yeah, it's four inches big, that's going to happen, but it was a teaching moment.

00:40:20.018 --> 00:40:23.106
That was an amazing mentality and she didn't indulge her like obsession with it, she just was like.

00:40:23.106 --> 00:40:30.110
So I have this very deep appreciation for like that group in general, because I could have never handled it that well.

00:40:30.110 --> 00:40:38.146
And she was just like yeah, it's going to happen.

00:40:38.166 --> 00:40:38.768
I think that is brilliant.

00:40:38.768 --> 00:40:40.813
I was like I'm going to take that and say some version of that.

00:40:40.833 --> 00:40:44.849
I feel like that happens with my kids because I love that it was just, and then it just ended it.

00:40:44.849 --> 00:40:50.811
And then we just like I feel like there's so much I can give them, but then I need the teachers and I need the coaches.

00:40:50.811 --> 00:40:53.237
But then I mean they're girls.

00:40:53.237 --> 00:41:08.755
So they're out there in these beautiful leotards, burping, farting, talking about all the disgusting things, and I'm like this is the weirdest environment I've ever been in, like I mean, it is the funny, we do carpool now.

00:41:08.755 --> 00:41:33.681
So I hear them back there like cackling about all their nonsense and like boys at school or whatever it is, and then one will be like man, my feet stink and the other one's like I thought that was your feet and they're like laughing and I'm like, oh my god, this is so funny to me, like covered in sparkle, covered in scrunchies, like it's, they're being real, yeah, oh yeah, and the environments allow for it.

00:41:33.681 --> 00:41:36.112
Now I feel like I don't know.

00:41:36.112 --> 00:41:38.440
It's different even than when I did sports.

00:41:38.561 --> 00:41:48.007
I didn't do gymnastics, but yeah, but I love I still like God that's such a great thing to say, just to not let her spiral and like, yeah, of course you're going to move on.

00:41:48.007 --> 00:41:49.070
You know she was like are you kidding?

00:41:49.070 --> 00:41:50.130
And like, yeah, of course you're going to move on.

00:41:50.130 --> 00:41:50.972
You know she was like are you kidding?

00:41:50.972 --> 00:41:56.661
And you do need other people to say, like when they say it takes a village, that is no joke.

00:41:56.661 --> 00:42:01.344
I mean, it takes all the teachers and the coaches and the other parents.

00:42:01.344 --> 00:42:07.768
And that's why we all influence each other too, because I'll see something y'all do and go oh man, I want to try that.

00:42:07.768 --> 00:42:11.853
You see something I talk about and you go, oh yeah, we all do that all day.

00:42:11.853 --> 00:42:16.719
And I mean I don't think I could parent without you know the village.

00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:17.320
So to speak.

00:42:18.365 --> 00:42:19.889
No, I mean, we've talked about that, Okay.

00:42:19.889 --> 00:42:27.193
So another funny thing speaking of influence you and I make this pumpkin bread.

00:42:27.193 --> 00:42:28.297
We should talk about this.

00:42:28.297 --> 00:42:29.347
You told me about it.

00:42:29.907 --> 00:42:31.931
Yes, I told you about it on the internet.

00:42:32.731 --> 00:42:34.295
We haven't talked about this yet, jenny.

00:42:34.295 --> 00:42:34.755
This is.

00:42:34.755 --> 00:42:40.172
It has two ingredients, possibly three, depending on the cake thing that you posted.

00:42:40.512 --> 00:42:49.313
Yes, yes, she taught me about it and I, I mean, I think you shared it and you were like just two ingredients and I was like what that's you're like I'm doing it.

00:42:49.313 --> 00:42:53.311
That's up my alley and I did it and it was such a freaking hit.

00:42:53.311 --> 00:42:57.914
We make them all the time now, so that's a perfect example.

00:42:57.914 --> 00:43:00.755
I saw it and I was like two ingredients, I can do that.

00:43:01.184 --> 00:43:04.795
It's like literally like a box of yellow cake mix, or you can use spice mix.

00:43:04.795 --> 00:43:07.289
So because originally.

00:43:08.152 --> 00:43:09.315
I haven't tried it with the yellow.

00:43:09.315 --> 00:43:09.907
Is it good with the?

00:43:09.927 --> 00:43:10.288
yellow.

00:43:10.288 --> 00:43:18.273
Yeah, but then I then I'll put in pumpkin spice mix, but I originally started with yellow cause I didn't know if my kids would like spice.

00:43:18.293 --> 00:43:41.175
And then you just do a can of pumpkin, nothing else, no eggs, no water, no oil and it comes out amazing every time we make muffins with it and we put brown sugar crumbles on top because, as my sister says, I guess I am extra on some things and didn't realize that about myself, but then it's like crumbling, they are so good.

00:43:41.175 --> 00:43:43.603
I mean you can put down like the whole thing.

00:43:43.603 --> 00:43:44.487
I'll be gone in a second.

00:43:44.487 --> 00:43:44.949
You feel like?

00:43:45.090 --> 00:43:46.697
and you feel really healthy about it.

00:43:46.697 --> 00:43:48.505
You're like look at me thriving.

00:43:48.505 --> 00:43:52.976
I started making those in high school with one of my like cousins.

00:43:52.976 --> 00:44:00.315
I have a cousin that's four days older than me, a guy we call the mumpkins, and we thought it was like so funny because it's like pumpkin muffins.

00:44:00.315 --> 00:44:05.094
So we just were like let's make mumpkins, because it's two things, you only need two things.

00:44:05.394 --> 00:44:05.976
They're good, Jenny.

00:44:05.976 --> 00:44:06.998
You're going to have to try them.

00:44:06.998 --> 00:44:07.807
I'm hearing about them.

00:44:07.867 --> 00:44:08.851
I'm here to vouch for it I'm sold.

00:44:08.871 --> 00:44:12.364
Send me a picture of your son and your birthday Sister and her kids' lives.

00:44:12.364 --> 00:44:13.070
I'll have.

00:44:13.393 --> 00:44:16.692
Costco salmon and a pumpkin for dessert.

00:44:17.385 --> 00:44:19.547
Salmon will not disappoint, alright.

00:44:20.048 --> 00:44:22.251
Good Well, she's obsessed with Costco.

00:44:22.251 --> 00:44:27.153
Jenny's alter ego is literally a Costco influencer.

00:44:27.724 --> 00:44:31.996
Yes, oh my god, I'm going to need you to tell me I have a love-hate with Costco, oh my God.

00:44:31.996 --> 00:44:32.264
So I need you to like tell me.

00:44:32.264 --> 00:44:32.753
So I have a love hate with Costco.

00:44:32.753 --> 00:44:43.652
I love it, but I spend so much upfront and I have to remind myself like, if you know, this stuff will last me all this time.

00:44:43.652 --> 00:44:49.329
So it's not really, but it's just like when I can't, even when I go in there, I get everything.

00:44:49.708 --> 00:44:53.072
So now I get everything.

00:44:53.612 --> 00:45:00.900
I can't even go in there anymore because I get it delivered now, because then I can go like reorder and get the things I know.

00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:01.561
Yeah, that's smart.

00:45:01.561 --> 00:45:02.913
Don't tell my husband about that.

00:45:02.913 --> 00:45:03.697
I don't want to do that.

00:45:04.244 --> 00:45:07.795
But then a friend of mine was like but isn't there a little upcharge when you do it?

00:45:07.795 --> 00:45:09.309
And I'm like it's still cheaper.

00:45:09.630 --> 00:45:10.474
Still save money.

00:45:10.514 --> 00:45:13.652
Yes, upcharge when you do it and I'm like it's still cheaper than still save money.

00:45:13.652 --> 00:45:18.467
Yes, when I go in and see new things, I am like my husband can go in and he'll be like get a couple of things, I don't know what happens to me.

00:45:18.467 --> 00:45:21.195
I'll be like that's, I'll know the deal is part of it.

00:45:21.195 --> 00:45:25.630
I'll be like that's a good deal for that thing I don't need and.

00:45:25.710 --> 00:45:33.440
I literally have like an 80 foot string like rope, like going around my upstairs loft because I saw it at Costco.

00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.331
It was like what am I decorating?

00:45:36.331 --> 00:45:38.215
Like a college dorm, like what am I doing?

00:45:38.215 --> 00:45:38.817
But I couldn't.

00:45:38.817 --> 00:45:40.911
I couldn't help myself.

00:45:41.371 --> 00:45:45.003
No see, but I do love it and and they have great things.

00:45:45.003 --> 00:45:48.061
I actually think they do a good job of like curating the stuff that they carry.

00:45:48.061 --> 00:45:50.349
I think Costco has some great stuff.

00:45:50.349 --> 00:45:52.655
You probably know you need to hit us.

00:45:52.655 --> 00:45:54.411
I know about the salmon, but nothing else.

00:45:55.829 --> 00:46:00.230
I do all the meatloaf Does it have onions.

00:46:00.230 --> 00:46:01.172
No.

00:46:01.172 --> 00:46:03.228
I don't think so.

00:46:03.831 --> 00:46:05.275
My husband doesn't like onions.

00:46:05.275 --> 00:46:09.315
I don't think it has onions because I don't love an onion.

00:46:11.248 --> 00:46:13.876
The mashed potatoes with that meatloaf, so good.

00:46:13.896 --> 00:46:15.681
All right, all right, so I'm going to try it.

00:46:15.681 --> 00:46:16.585
I got to give it a try.

00:46:16.585 --> 00:46:17.789
I like any of their prepared food.

00:46:17.811 --> 00:46:23.353
Though I'm like I'll get the tortellini, I'll get the shrimp, I can just eat the plate of shrimp for dinner.

00:46:23.485 --> 00:46:24.931
The noodles one is really good.

00:46:35.186 --> 00:46:35.527
Have do there.

00:46:35.527 --> 00:46:36.047
That one's really good.

00:46:36.047 --> 00:46:37.170
Yakisoba, yes, yes, and my kids love it.

00:46:37.170 --> 00:46:37.954
Yes, gosh, they love it.

00:46:37.954 --> 00:46:38.596
Yes, yakisoba is really good.

00:46:38.596 --> 00:46:39.860
That is one that a mom told me about.

00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:46.425
See, I don't know guys mom said we need to be sharing more of the costco things going because we're we're in the beginning of the school year.

00:46:46.425 --> 00:46:50.847
So I feel like and I've posted a bunch about this but I'm like, can we please talk about food more?

00:46:50.847 --> 00:46:53.956
What are you guys doing when we get these people home?

00:46:53.956 --> 00:46:56.414
Because, like, it's not that easy.

00:46:56.905 --> 00:46:59.672
We basically had this Mediterranean dish last night.

00:46:59.672 --> 00:47:20.552
Speaking of food, and my daughter comes out of the shower and she's I mean, it's literally like basmati rice, onion and ground beef, and you make like seven spices and you just cook it it's one pot, which are my fave and my daughter comes out and she's like, oh my gosh, that smells so good.

00:47:20.552 --> 00:47:21.335
And I'm like, oh good, so you'll try it.

00:47:21.335 --> 00:47:24.925
No, so I'm at that like phase of life where she will not freaking eat anything.

00:47:24.925 --> 00:47:34.063
Yet she was like it smells so good and I'm like we'll just have a bite oh my gosh, no, so that's where I'm at.

00:47:34.684 --> 00:47:38.192
We're butter noodles and tacos over here share, okay, two things.

00:47:38.331 --> 00:47:39.974
You guys have a great platform.

00:47:39.974 --> 00:47:53.197
Share more food stuff, because we're all going through those same battles and I learned about yakisoba from maybe the salmon, I can't remember from on, like one of the Facebook mom groups.

00:47:53.197 --> 00:47:58.637
This mom posted and she was like somebody tell me like what to free my freaking family.

00:47:58.637 --> 00:48:02.800
And everyone wrote and I think she even said, like Costco, tell me what to get.

00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:09.333
I screenshotted everything and I try, I like got them all and it worked.

00:48:09.333 --> 00:48:14.146
But listen, so, share more Costco stuff or anywhere, but it's like ideas.

00:48:14.146 --> 00:48:27.391
I think it's helpful and then I will tell you, jenny, because that is like one of my other proud moments and I get my family, like my mom and sisters and my husband, all make fun of me because I feel like getting us about this.

00:48:27.391 --> 00:48:36.552
I have worked so hard for like a little over six months to get my kids to like different, like ethnic food and maybe y'all's do.

00:48:36.552 --> 00:48:41.251
I hear people talk about it and I'm always like man, like that's not happening at my house.

00:48:41.251 --> 00:48:42.576
What's?

00:48:42.596 --> 00:48:43.077
your secret.

00:48:44.224 --> 00:48:44.967
Making Okay.

00:48:44.967 --> 00:48:47.431
So here's the thing Different things work for different people.

00:48:47.431 --> 00:49:06.847
I actually had a pediatric like nutritionist years ago who I spoke with via Come On Mama and she gave me all this great advice like don't pressure, don't force, just like lots of things from this professionally trained person, and I adhered to that for like five years.

00:49:07.568 --> 00:49:09.552
It didn't work for me, right?

00:49:09.552 --> 00:49:15.552
So Becca and I have issues with food, so we're really weird about like not pushing and forcing.

00:49:15.552 --> 00:49:23.052
So we're I'm the same, but dude at some point like something's gotta give so I would say, like I gave it the college try.

00:49:23.211 --> 00:49:25.016
You know, I really did.

00:49:25.016 --> 00:49:27.887
I didn't force, I didn't pressure, I didn't cook like.

00:49:27.887 --> 00:49:37.925
I never like cook two meals, but I cook, definitely stuff like geared towards them or like at least part of it, and then that's great.

00:49:37.925 --> 00:49:42.385
But they're, they were very basic eaters and some of that was my own doing Like.

00:49:42.385 --> 00:49:49.318
Initially I thought, well, if I could get them to learn to love, like you know, all these vegetables with no butter, how great would that be.

00:49:49.318 --> 00:49:50.018
Well, you know what?

00:49:50.018 --> 00:50:07.086
It's not great because actually I like butter and I want to cook with butter, and when you go to a restaurant they use butter, and so the first couple of times they were like I don't like it like this and I'm like with butter, and I realized maybe I messed up and made their palette like basic.

00:50:07.467 --> 00:50:14.487
So what happened was, at the end of the theory, I did like if I could go back, I thought about writing about this.

00:50:14.487 --> 00:50:26.206
If I could go back, I would say I was like more careful about what I gave them in terms of just like just plain chicken, but not with stuff, like not with flavors and seasoning.

00:50:26.206 --> 00:50:31.378
But that's actually not real life, like I don't want you know plain chicken.

00:50:31.378 --> 00:50:34.648
That's actually not real life.

00:50:34.648 --> 00:50:35.693
Like I don't want you know plain chicken, yeah, yes.

00:50:35.693 --> 00:50:38.244
So then when we would have anything different, they'd be like, well, this is, this is not the way I like it.

00:50:38.244 --> 00:50:40.730
And I'm like, oh no, I screwed up.

00:50:40.730 --> 00:50:42.753
That is such a good point.

00:50:42.753 --> 00:50:50.413
I mean, it was a lesson learned the hard way and I did so here's lately, or I guess it was like last spring, I don't't know.

00:50:50.413 --> 00:50:52.335
I hit like a wall and I was like you know what?

00:50:52.335 --> 00:50:59.655
I can't go to any more restaurants and verify that they have like chicken tenders, chicken quesadilla, mac and cheese.

00:50:59.655 --> 00:51:02.021
Like, yes, I can't do it.

00:51:02.021 --> 00:51:03.425
I like a lot of different food.

00:51:03.425 --> 00:51:04.952
You guys are gonna have to get on board.

00:51:05.072 --> 00:51:09.268
And it happened in conjunction with that post about the costco food.

00:51:09.268 --> 00:51:12.076
And they were like my kids like yakisoba, mine like this.

00:51:12.076 --> 00:51:16.474
And I was like you can't help but feel like, my God, I'm a failure.

00:51:16.474 --> 00:51:19.327
Like my kids don't like any of that stuff.

00:51:19.327 --> 00:51:22.556
So I told my husband I was like I'm going to do something different.

00:51:22.556 --> 00:51:25.052
We're going to just I'm going to make different things.

00:51:25.052 --> 00:51:27.844
That's the deal, that's what we're having.

00:51:27.844 --> 00:51:32.072
And so the first time, like chicken tikka masala was one of the ones that I introduced.

00:51:32.072 --> 00:51:34.958
Okay, I love chicken tikka, like I love Indian food.

00:51:34.958 --> 00:51:36.019
I love any ethnic too.

00:51:36.804 --> 00:51:37.347
Same way.

00:51:37.387 --> 00:51:39.311
First, we're like what is that?

00:51:39.311 --> 00:51:40.996
And I said explain what it is.

00:51:40.996 --> 00:51:42.146
And they were like I don't like it.

00:51:42.146 --> 00:51:44.889
Well, like you said, well, I need you to try it.

00:51:44.889 --> 00:51:45.829
You haven't tried it.

00:51:45.829 --> 00:51:47.192
This is what I think, you know.

00:51:47.192 --> 00:51:48.333
They took a bite.

00:51:48.333 --> 00:51:49.795
Oh no, I don't like that at all.

00:51:49.795 --> 00:51:51.777
I don't like the sauce or the chicken, I don't like any of it.

00:51:51.777 --> 00:51:52.597
And I was like okay.

00:51:52.597 --> 00:51:54.400
So here's what worked for me.

00:51:54.400 --> 00:52:02.807
First of all, continued exposure, which is the one thing that that nutritionist said.

00:52:02.807 --> 00:52:04.269
Now, the not forcing did not work for me.

00:52:04.269 --> 00:52:04.971
I tried it for five years.

00:52:04.971 --> 00:52:09.016
So if any of you are out there not forcing and you feel like you need a force, you have my blessing to freaking force.

00:52:09.036 --> 00:52:10.137
It's me, it's me Do it.

00:52:10.137 --> 00:52:11.778
It's okay, they're all right.

00:52:11.778 --> 00:52:19.077
My tricks that ended up working were they have to be hungry Like they really do have to be hungry, like almost starving.

00:52:19.077 --> 00:52:28.400
Second thing is I would always serve like the things that I wanted them to eat, with things that they loved, so that there was something if they didn't like.

00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:33.193
You know the thing I wanted them to learn to eat but, then they get too full on the thing they love.

00:52:33.893 --> 00:52:42.688
So the way I started doing it was I served them stuff they like that's not their favorite thing, on the side with whatever I was introducing, and it worked.

00:52:42.688 --> 00:52:44.333
I mean like it worked.

00:52:44.333 --> 00:52:52.905
And what I explained to them was so if you have really young kids, you know this would be lost on them, but I think the the method would still work.

00:52:52.905 --> 00:53:10.286
But I told him, like we can't take y'all places, we're not going to be able to travel places, we can't go explore and experience new cities and new States and new countries and new things, because we can't guarantee that chicken tenders are going to be everywhere or that they're going to be.

00:53:10.286 --> 00:53:13.514
I mean, don't you love it when they're like, yeah, but I don't like these chicken tenders.

00:53:14.034 --> 00:53:16.148
Oh yeah, Clark's like that with French fries.

00:53:16.148 --> 00:53:18.293
She doesn't like McDonald's French fries.

00:53:18.293 --> 00:53:19.817
I'm like what is wrong with you?

00:53:19.817 --> 00:53:21.307
You are not my child.

00:53:21.347 --> 00:53:24.777
Jordan would like it because that's what he does Everything.

00:53:25.304 --> 00:53:26.969
Every place doesn't cook it the same.

00:53:26.969 --> 00:53:29.233
So that was the big thing and like.

00:53:29.233 --> 00:53:34.309
So the second time I did chicken masala, I was like this is what we're having, what we're having.

00:53:34.309 --> 00:53:37.688
And I did like apples and something with it, apples and naan.

00:53:37.688 --> 00:53:46.369
So you're going to like the bread yeah, it's different bread, you're going to like it and you're going to have apples and if you're hungry enough, that's what we're eating.

00:53:46.369 --> 00:53:47.791
So they did then.

00:53:47.791 --> 00:53:50.956
They didn't like the chicken, but they liked the sauce.

00:53:50.956 --> 00:53:53.018
Ok, just see the sauce.

00:53:53.018 --> 00:53:54.860
Kept doing it the next time.

00:53:54.860 --> 00:54:00.987
You know, I like the chicken but not the sauce.

00:54:00.987 --> 00:54:01.688
Scrape the sauce off, you know.

00:54:01.688 --> 00:54:05.418
And then now, I kid you not, I like feel immense joy because they're like Mom, can we go eat Indian tonight?

00:54:06.385 --> 00:54:16.117
I can't, I'm, I'm like so happy that is such a badge of honor Like all of the thing, but like it actually that's genius, immense joy.

00:54:16.518 --> 00:54:30.829
And so my husband laughs at me Cause I'm like I don't think you understand the fact that like we can go get Thai or or Japanese or like right, and that's all I really want Like ethnic food.

00:54:30.951 --> 00:54:32.971
I know I love it so much.

00:54:32.971 --> 00:54:33.914
Like, please.

00:54:34.925 --> 00:54:44.572
So, like, if any moms listen to you guys right now and you have young kids, my advice would be expose them to flavors yeah, just more than you even normally would.

00:54:44.572 --> 00:54:55.391
And if any of you have kids like our ages, then, right, don't be afraid to make them try it ages, then, right, don't be afraid to make them try it.

00:54:55.411 --> 00:54:56.978
And like the other thing, my husband said one thing too that I liked our kids.

00:54:56.978 --> 00:54:58.505
Big thing is they don't really say I don't like it, cause.

00:54:58.505 --> 00:55:03.927
I was like, no, we're not going to say that, but they'll say like it's not my favorite, it's not my favorite.

00:55:03.927 --> 00:55:10.454
And then my husband said, well, yeah, of course it's not your favorite, your favorite is your favorite, everything can't be your favorite.

00:55:10.454 --> 00:55:13.465
And I was like, course it's not your favorite, your favorite is your favorite, everything can't be your favorite.

00:55:13.465 --> 00:55:16.226
And I was like, man, that's so simple.

00:55:16.226 --> 00:55:17.307
And yeah, it's true, you know what?

00:55:17.307 --> 00:55:19.570
It's not my favorite either.

00:55:19.610 --> 00:55:21.452
Maybe certain things, but we're having it, so aren't my favorite.

00:55:21.634 --> 00:55:28.123
So Well, I mean, this conversation hopefully has changed my life, like I'm doing this, like immediately.

00:55:28.123 --> 00:55:29.878
You have to question that.

00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:31.063
Here's the other thing.

00:55:31.063 --> 00:55:32.882
This is the only other thing I noticed.

00:55:32.882 --> 00:55:36.764
So we eat at home all the time.

00:55:36.764 --> 00:55:44.362
We don't eat out that much, except like we're on a date night or if we're pushed for timing and like then of course we'll hit the drive-thru and stuff.

00:55:44.362 --> 00:55:46.001
But in general we eat family dinners.

00:55:46.001 --> 00:55:46.818
We eat at home a lot.

00:55:47.460 --> 00:55:52.380
Um, not like I'm some great cook, I'm just getting 30 minute Costco salmon, but like we're eating at home.

00:55:52.380 --> 00:55:59.978
But and my sisters one of my sister has no kids, the other one, um, has two young ones but they eat out all the time.

00:55:59.978 --> 00:56:02.239
Like they laugh, they're like where does my money go?

00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:03.422
It goes to eating out.

00:56:03.422 --> 00:56:07.485
We need to be like Christina and save her money because we don't eat out that much.

00:56:07.485 --> 00:56:23.163
But what I will say is that this summer I like kept going on the exposing food mission, so we ate out a lot and ordered in a lot and, man, it is expensive.

00:56:23.163 --> 00:56:34.882
So you kind of have to be committed, right, because when you're trying to get them to try stuff, you were going to take them and you're going to order it and they might not like it and you kind of have to just be committed to knowing like it might be a waste of money, but that's.

00:56:34.882 --> 00:56:36.266
There's no other way to really do it.

00:56:37.056 --> 00:57:04.010
No, it's the same with even like getting kids to eat out like as far as like manners wise, yes, yes, please don't act like a jerk.

00:57:04.010 --> 00:57:08.632
Keep it in this little grouping here, if you could.

00:57:08.632 --> 00:57:10.481
Please don't make me raise my voice.

00:57:10.481 --> 00:57:14.144
Please don't embarrass each other or yourselves.

00:57:14.144 --> 00:57:16.061
Not big asks.

00:57:16.061 --> 00:57:25.465
I'm not asking for perfectly well-behaved kids, but like if you never expose them to that, you can't be mad when you roll in and they act like it's WWE.

00:57:25.987 --> 00:57:30.577
Like, like, how can they know if you don't give them the chance You're right?

00:57:30.617 --> 00:57:36.177
And like, you're not doing some of these things is really only like making it more and more awkward.

00:57:36.177 --> 00:57:44.567
And now my kids go places with other people, so I'm like please don't do the thing that you've done before it burns.

00:57:45.695 --> 00:57:57.302
But it sounds like you've taught them Cause you're right, taking them out like that, like I feel like sometimes our standards for kids are too high, like higher than ourselves too Right.

00:57:57.704 --> 00:58:09.025
But the flip of that is, yeah, what you said, how would you ever expect them to know if you don't give them the chance to see what it's like and to show them like, hey, this is okay and this is not like.

00:58:09.025 --> 00:58:11.742
One of the things I always say is we don't want to be the loudest table.

00:58:11.742 --> 00:58:23.822
Like, we can have fun, we can do whatever, but if we're the loudest table, we're too loud and we're a loud family in general, like we're not my kids are, they're so loud, but not at a restaurant.

00:58:23.822 --> 00:58:30.652
Because, like we have to be respectful of all the people around us who, like you said, they're spending their hard-earned money and taking their family out.

00:58:30.652 --> 00:58:36.126
We're not going to be the ones who are like you know hoodlums, no, but some of it's like the magic.

00:58:36.146 --> 00:58:50.943
So, like the other day, we were at burton's and we saw this, like I'm gonna say, in their mid 80s, this couple that had their whole dinner, this husband wife, and then they got this giant ice cream sundae at the end and we didn't even know that they had an ice cream sundae.

00:58:50.943 --> 00:58:55.762
And the girls were like, and I was like, yeah, let's definitely do it.

00:58:55.762 --> 00:59:00.018
And they're like yes, and then it came to our table and they're like what?

00:59:00.018 --> 00:59:08.047
I mean, it was so much sauce and ice cream and I didn't even know until I saw these two like really living their best life, that that was even an option and.

00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:11.983
I'm like, because what did like a treat?

00:59:12.023 --> 00:59:13.427
when you were little to go out to eat.

00:59:13.427 --> 00:59:20.592
I mean, we didn't go out to eat ever, so like when you did go, it was like I want app entree dessert.

00:59:20.693 --> 00:59:26.344
I'm still like I grew up in a house where we didn't get like we would get water and we did not get an app like.

00:59:26.344 --> 00:59:39.106
And then, as we got older, we did more, but definitely, like in the beginning, when we went out, we weren't going like all out for sure, like we didn't, that wasn't like our means at the time, for sure we still don't.

00:59:39.166 --> 00:59:42.987
Even I would say, like we all get waters, and my kids will be.

00:59:42.987 --> 00:59:45.577
You know, they're a little bit older now, so they'll be like, well, can I have?

00:59:45.577 --> 00:59:54.534
And this is just parenting prerogative, everybody does it differently but like if we're going to have dessert, then obviously we're not going to get whatever.

00:59:54.534 --> 00:59:58.365
Like if they want a special drink or something like that, like we're not going to do both.

00:59:58.365 --> 01:00:02.326
You pick partially for health purposes, but not really.

01:00:02.326 --> 01:00:06.586
I mean, to be honest, it's because, like you can't get everything right.

01:00:06.586 --> 01:00:09.239
Yeah, to be honest is because, like you can't get everything right.

01:00:09.260 --> 01:00:10.322
Yeah, I don't think they need to get everything.

01:00:10.342 --> 01:00:12.389
Well, like, how else do you learn that Exactly, exactly.

01:00:12.389 --> 01:00:19.108
But like, when we go out I get tickled Cause I used to be like I mean, so queso is my favorite food.

01:00:19.108 --> 01:00:20.559
I'm like super vocal about that.

01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:22.304
Queso is my favorite food by far.

01:00:22.304 --> 01:00:23.407
My dog's named queso.

01:00:23.407 --> 01:00:30.318
I was going to say, and it's also your dog's name, yes, because he's a white.

01:00:30.318 --> 01:00:31.300
He's a white dog like and he looks like queso.

01:00:31.300 --> 01:00:33.284
Everyone's like, oh, did your kids name him?

01:00:33.284 --> 01:00:39.507
No, I named him and then told the family like, hey, here's our puppy and his name's queso.

01:00:39.547 --> 01:00:41.878
Like that my kids didn't do.

01:00:41.878 --> 01:00:50.619
I can't even give them that, but it's my kids' favorite food too, because they're obviously highly influenced by my obsession with queso.

01:00:50.619 --> 01:00:52.063
But we used to.

01:00:52.063 --> 01:00:56.918
We'd go to the restaurants to eat Mexican and get queso, and then they wouldn't eat their food.

01:00:56.918 --> 01:01:05.503
And I would be like you guys, we can't get queso like this much and let you guys just go unbridled with it if you don't eat any food.

01:01:05.864 --> 01:01:09.940
And my son was so good, let you guys just go unbridled with it if you don't eat any food.

01:01:09.940 --> 01:01:10.603
And my son was so good.

01:01:10.603 --> 01:01:20.128
He was like but that's what you do, and he was right, I do, I like eat just queso, and then I might get a triple dipper and like that's my meal yeah, because I'm an adult and I can.

01:01:20.128 --> 01:01:23.981
But I'd be like you need to eat that chicken quesadilla, blah, blah, blah.

01:01:23.981 --> 01:01:26.525
But no, you're right, I I do that.

01:01:26.525 --> 01:01:29.289
So finding the balance.

01:01:29.289 --> 01:01:38.009
And then we also get tickled sometimes, like with kids food like yeah, you can have a cupcake when you eat your pizza, not like one's better than the other, like you know.

01:01:38.009 --> 01:01:41.275
I mean those are insane, but so I don't know.

01:01:41.275 --> 01:01:45.440
Kids and eating, that's a um, that's a challenge Nobody warns you about.

01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:49.903
I know I sometimes think about that, even when it's like a weekend and the girl's like can we have ice cream for breakfast?

01:01:49.903 --> 01:01:50.543
And I want to be like.

01:01:50.543 --> 01:01:54.088
I mean, how different is ice cream than like kids cereal and milk?

01:01:54.248 --> 01:01:55.208
I say it all the time.

01:01:55.208 --> 01:01:56.228
Clark's like, can I have some more?

01:01:56.228 --> 01:01:57.710
So I'm like you know what Sure.

01:01:58.331 --> 01:01:59.231
Yeah, what is it?

01:01:59.231 --> 01:02:05.061
I think it's okay, honestly, and those are the things like pick your battles right.

01:02:05.061 --> 01:02:07.565
I mean, why can't they have it?

01:02:07.565 --> 01:02:09.289
For it's not like you do it every morning.

01:02:09.289 --> 01:02:14.427
My kids asked me Sunday, can they have an ice cream sandwich for breakfast?

01:02:14.427 --> 01:02:17.865
Because we were away at the mountains and I was like absolutely.

01:02:17.865 --> 01:02:20.262
And they ran up and they were like you're the best.

01:02:20.262 --> 01:02:23.496
Well, I knew in like an hour we're about to have eggs and whatever, like.

01:02:23.496 --> 01:02:26.242
So yeah, of course, who cares really?

01:02:26.985 --> 01:02:27.367
Who cares?

01:02:27.367 --> 01:02:29.117
That's eggs and what like.

01:02:29.137 --> 01:02:29.820
So, yeah, of course, who cares really?

01:02:29.820 --> 01:02:30.382
Yeah, okay, that's what I say.

01:02:30.382 --> 01:02:30.583
It's like.

01:02:30.583 --> 01:02:30.844
What does it?

01:02:30.844 --> 01:02:31.307
What does it matter?

01:02:31.307 --> 01:02:32.152
I mean, I put so much creamer in my coffee.

01:02:32.172 --> 01:02:38.135
It's basically an ice cream sandwich, like I know you're like let's be honest here, let's like really zoom out at some of this stuff.

01:02:38.135 --> 01:02:40.503
Okay, I have one more question before we wrap up.

01:02:40.503 --> 01:03:09.980
So we, you went from this like um, especially during covet, I feel like I was like very, you know, like I really like looked so forward to your content because we were all so isolated and we were like figuring out this and we're having these hard decisions, and you were like this really practical, grounded guide through a lot of that and I just like loved it because you like let us all be moms and the houses be crazy, and like it was okay to feel like this was a lot, but then also, we're providing safety.

01:03:09.980 --> 01:03:11.003
We're providing security.

01:03:11.003 --> 01:03:11.925
This is what it looked like.

01:03:13.076 --> 01:03:25.346
And then you went a little quiet, yeah, and now you're back and we're talking about books and you're writing one.

01:03:25.346 --> 01:03:28.972
Yes, can we talk about this before we're done here?

01:03:28.972 --> 01:03:33.123
Because, like you started, so I started.

01:03:33.123 --> 01:03:36.309
My mom got me a Kindle white for my birthday a few years ago.

01:03:36.309 --> 01:03:43.072
It was right after you started talking about the book with the guitar guy.

01:03:43.072 --> 01:03:44.576
It was maybe your second book.

01:03:44.797 --> 01:03:47.463
Oh, yeah, that was like early, early, early okay.

01:03:47.523 --> 01:03:59.605
So I and if you haven't heard this story you're gonna die so my mom also gave my sister-in-law, christina, the one that's the um therapist I call her our family therapist.

01:03:59.605 --> 01:04:00.286
She's been on here.

01:04:00.286 --> 01:04:05.581
Her old one then hooked us all up to the same kindle service.

01:04:05.581 --> 01:04:13.023
So Christina goes the whole summer, doesn't read, doesn't like even charge it.

01:04:13.023 --> 01:04:15.954
So I'm like I have this book that it happened one summer book.

01:04:15.954 --> 01:04:17.117
I'm like you have to read it.

01:04:17.117 --> 01:04:23.378
She charges her Kindle overnight, facetimes me I'm at the gym, but I know if it's FaceTime it's going to be important.

01:04:23.378 --> 01:04:26.625
So I'm like what she's crying.

01:04:26.625 --> 01:04:29.110
She's like it's going to be important.

01:04:29.110 --> 01:04:30.693
So I'm like what she's crying.

01:04:30.693 --> 01:04:37.916
She's like Rebecca, everybody can see your Kindle history.

01:04:37.916 --> 01:04:39.018
What is dirty?

01:04:39.018 --> 01:04:41.204
Like me, it was actually like it was the book.

01:04:41.204 --> 01:04:41.784
It was about the.

01:04:41.784 --> 01:04:43.286
It's about like a musician.

01:04:43.286 --> 01:04:48.706
But she was like everybody in our Kindle history can see what you're reading.

01:04:48.706 --> 01:04:59.362
Mom is reading like historical romance and you're over here with like I was like no shame no shame, no shame.

01:04:59.382 --> 01:05:00.784
Let's talk about it.

01:05:00.784 --> 01:05:03.849
Okay, First of all, that's amazing and I love it.

01:05:03.849 --> 01:05:05.920
Did she ever read it, or is?

01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:26.755
she like I will have to ask her, but we were like so unglued that my mom is a keeper of things, so my mom had gotten her a gift, maybe like a week or so later, but instead of putting in a gift bag she found an old school Abercrombie bag where it's like just the torso so she had been joking like do you think Cindy knows?

01:05:27.418 --> 01:05:31.382
so she gave it to my sister-in-law in this Abercrombie bag and she sent me the picture.

01:05:31.382 --> 01:05:38.905
She goes, cindy knows, cindy knows, we're reading the spicy books and I was like honestly though.

01:05:38.945 --> 01:05:42.356
Okay See, this could be like a whole separate.

01:05:42.596 --> 01:05:45.717
I know, and I'm sorry for that, but we have to touch on this Cause.

01:05:45.737 --> 01:05:47.119
I'm going to go.

01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:51.382
I know y'all got to wrap up, so here, no, you're fine, we have, we have plenty of time, you're fine, I've got.

01:05:51.382 --> 01:05:57.246
I got passionate feels about spicy romances because, first of all, I love them.

01:05:57.246 --> 01:06:00.007
I'm obsessed with them Like I don't have any.

01:06:00.007 --> 01:06:01.547
Clearly, I don't have shame about it.

01:06:01.628 --> 01:06:18.355
I'm like on here and look, listen, like my cousins, my aunts, like everybody sees what I shared too, and I always I've heard you talk about, like you know when people might, so they hear me saying like hey, listen, I love a spicy romance.

01:06:18.355 --> 01:06:19.840
I'm not ashamed of it, though.

01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:21.340
But here's what I will tell you.

01:06:21.340 --> 01:06:27.961
I love them so much that, like my barometer for whether or not I'm going to read a book is does it have spice?

01:06:27.961 --> 01:06:32.847
If it doesn't, I don't even want it, like I don't even care because life is so heavy.

01:06:32.847 --> 01:06:34.759
I like to read what I like to read.

01:06:34.759 --> 01:06:36.161
That's fun for me.

01:06:36.161 --> 01:06:47.548
I think I like the spice because I feel like it's more real life, like you're not going to fall in love and have this amazing romance and not have it so I got feels about spice, but I love that.

01:06:47.568 --> 01:06:58.494
That's a really good point, Like I kind of like it's true, I know, but it's important to say like you're allowed to have it, Cause I feel like we all grew up I don't know where it was like a little bit more careful about it and I love that.

01:06:58.494 --> 01:07:00.416
You basically just said like you're allowed to have it.

01:07:00.416 --> 01:07:02.818
If you have a great romance, you're going to have it.

01:07:03.137 --> 01:07:03.617
You are.

01:07:03.617 --> 01:07:19.168
And so, yes, okay, when you read a book and they're still really sweet, but like, if I'm along for the ride and this romance is building up, like I want to see the culmination, okay, I'm in it for the, for the detail.

01:07:19.168 --> 01:07:24.911
Like I laughed because my husband was like Christina, I said no, I like open door, not closed door.

01:07:24.911 --> 01:07:26.632
And he was like what even is that?

01:07:26.632 --> 01:07:31.141
And I was like I'll tell you what it is Open door, you're in there, you're like part of the action.

01:07:31.141 --> 01:07:34.364
Okay, closed door, is it fades to black?

01:07:34.364 --> 01:07:38.125
Now, I prefer for it not to fade to black.

01:07:38.125 --> 01:07:38.806
That's just me.

01:07:38.806 --> 01:07:42.442
I'm glad y'all are the same, but okay, I have two funny stories.

01:07:47.675 --> 01:07:49.923
I'm going to tell you really quick I've never even heard this story, so I love this like open door, closed door.

01:07:49.923 --> 01:07:51.951
Like if we're getting excited about a handhold, I know I'm in the wrong book.

01:07:51.951 --> 01:07:54.835
I'm like, no, we need by 39%.

01:07:54.875 --> 01:08:00.215
But you're getting excited about a handhold right, but then you want to know that but.

01:08:00.275 --> 01:08:01.978
I need you to bring me the heat.

01:08:01.978 --> 01:08:10.050
If I'm in my Kindle and it's hitting 39% and we haven't seen an open door, I'm like this actually might not be the book for me.

01:08:10.715 --> 01:08:12.981
And then you can't be afraid to not finish, thank you.

01:08:12.981 --> 01:08:19.023
I tell my sister that all the time she reads more like what your mom reads.

01:08:19.023 --> 01:08:23.226
I mean, we have vastly different, it's comical.

01:08:23.226 --> 01:08:25.663
But she'll be like I can't stand this book.

01:08:25.663 --> 01:08:27.180
It's so boring.

01:08:27.180 --> 01:08:28.717
I'm like how far in are you?

01:08:28.717 --> 01:08:31.204
And she'll be like like half, I'm going to finish.

01:08:31.204 --> 01:08:33.177
No, no, life is too short.

01:08:33.177 --> 01:08:38.497
If you don't like it at halfway freaking, throw in the towel and switch, but okay.

01:08:38.497 --> 01:08:39.778
So here's how much I love them.

01:08:40.099 --> 01:08:41.961
I consume audio books.

01:08:41.961 --> 01:08:46.747
I always have one, like physically on the Kindle, and then an audio book, different books.

01:08:46.747 --> 01:09:01.962
So I'm probably scatterbrained, but at any time, if I ever have in my ear pods or ear pods, I am always listening, and there have been like I will be sitting at my kids practice, watching them listening, and it'll be like getting to the spicy part.

01:09:01.962 --> 01:09:04.158
I like pause it, you know.

01:09:04.460 --> 01:09:17.682
But the funny things that's happened to me are two things where one time my bat, like my, my car battery got messed up or whatever and AAA came and they were messing with the car and they said we're going to need a minute, we're going to check it.

01:09:17.682 --> 01:09:26.025
So I like came back in the house and then I tried to put on my thing to listen and I realized it was connected to my car.

01:09:26.025 --> 01:09:29.109
It was on a spicy, very spicy.

01:09:29.109 --> 01:09:35.188
I like tried to get you know, get rid of the Bluetooth or whatever went running down there.

01:09:35.188 --> 01:09:45.523
Oh, it was a hundred percent playing on the speakers and that man was down there and I was like wow, wow, actually, and they probably were like that.

01:09:46.423 --> 01:10:08.944
The funniest thing, too, is I got a new car like a year ago and my sister bought my old car and so we were at like the um, the rec center, and my brother-in-law was driving the car the family car that was previously mine and Walt like out of the rec building and he says, um, christina, who's Charlie?

01:10:08.944 --> 01:10:11.136
And I was like what?

01:10:11.136 --> 01:10:14.449
And he was like your book, what are you listening to?

01:10:14.449 --> 01:10:18.601
It's been playing on my speakers for the past 30 minutes and I was like, oh my gosh.

01:10:18.601 --> 01:10:21.494
So it still happens every time he's near me.

01:10:21.494 --> 01:10:30.742
It just happened again this weekend and they turn the car on, my phone, goes to my audio book, which is almost always at a spicy part, and connects to their Bluetooth.

01:10:30.761 --> 01:10:38.667
That's when you have to stop it, cause you're like I either have 17 minutes to dedicate to 12 pages of spice or I'm going to pause this.

01:10:38.667 --> 01:10:41.180
Pause it so I can enjoy it Exactly.

01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:45.328
So then it goes to hit, so I am, I have been there too.

01:10:45.328 --> 01:10:52.682
Hit, so I am, I have been there too, and I've just decided to, um, just run with it.

01:10:52.703 --> 01:10:53.123
So I am trying.

01:10:53.123 --> 01:10:59.082
Trying, being a keyword, I mean, you are, no, we're big into like word, like we're big into like projecting, so you are, I well.

01:10:59.122 --> 01:10:59.884
I am, you're right.

01:10:59.884 --> 01:11:03.634
I am writing a spicy romance.

01:11:03.634 --> 01:11:05.019
I'm actually almost done.

01:11:05.019 --> 01:11:07.349
So you're right, I, I, I'm almost done.

01:11:07.349 --> 01:11:08.193
I am so excited.

01:11:08.193 --> 01:11:15.355
Maybe y'all should be beta readers when I finish it, because it seems like, yes, oh my gosh, I would love that.

01:11:15.355 --> 01:11:17.722
Okay, then that would be so helpful.

01:11:17.722 --> 01:11:23.518
Yeah, I feel like I need people who know the genre to give feedback.

01:11:23.518 --> 01:11:27.225
Yeah, we know the genre I need you.

01:11:27.404 --> 01:11:30.497
They're not behind me on the screen here because I keep those separate.

01:11:30.497 --> 01:11:34.371
But yeah, I hear you okay well, but that's why I?

01:11:34.390 --> 01:11:36.537
kindle because I don't like everyone to see the covers.

01:11:36.677 --> 01:11:50.167
I'm just like I'll live for the covers I mean, I look at him, but I love kindle because I can take that thing anywhere, and then, as soon as I'm done with another one, I have like you know you're straight, I just keep it going.

01:11:50.167 --> 01:11:53.091
Um, but I am writing one.

01:11:53.091 --> 01:11:56.157
I am at 75,000 words, so I'm almost done.

01:11:56.157 --> 01:12:03.600
I'm going to, I'm going to try to get to 85, because I'm clueless about the process, but I'd like to think I'm a good writer.

01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:06.867
Um, I definitely know spicy romance genre.

01:12:06.867 --> 01:12:07.328
I've read.

01:12:07.328 --> 01:12:10.021
To think I'm a good writer, I definitely know spicy romance genre.

01:12:10.021 --> 01:12:10.243
I've read.

01:12:10.243 --> 01:12:10.824
I don't even know how many.

01:12:10.824 --> 01:12:12.051
So I know what readers want because I, I am readers.

01:12:12.051 --> 01:12:14.478
You know like, yeah, I am that person too.

01:12:14.478 --> 01:12:33.627
I think it's really good, I'm really really excited and when I finish, I haven't decided yet if I'm just going to self-publish or try to get with the publishing house and have mixed feelings, because obviously, like a publishing house would be amazing, right, and give you credibility that you might not otherwise have.

01:12:33.795 --> 01:12:41.759
But it's like a two-year process once you sign to get this book that I've already finished out, and I don't know about that.

01:12:41.759 --> 01:12:45.927
And self-publishing used to be like the stigma around.

01:12:45.927 --> 01:12:54.966
It was well, if you can't get, you know, traditionally published, then you self-publish and it was like the lesser but it's been a pretty big 180.

01:12:54.966 --> 01:13:04.890
And now a lot of authors who we all read and know and love are either still self-published or had all of their big hits self-published and then later got picked up.

01:13:04.890 --> 01:13:09.676
But it's almost like man, I don't know if I I don't know.

01:13:10.198 --> 01:13:23.145
So that's kind of where I'm at and I've spoken with some of the authors that I love, that I'm a big fan of, and the romance community of authors is very, very cool because you think there would be competition, but they're not.

01:13:23.145 --> 01:13:36.188
They're amazing and they're like mentors, and so a lot of the authors that I'm obsessed with reading have been so kind and really guided me and when I've asked them questions or talked about things, they'll answer me and and it's very, very cool to see and.

01:13:36.188 --> 01:13:55.037
And then here's something too like when I see them like I want, I want, I know what I want to be when I grow up and it is a spicy romance author and people who went to school with me are like I will come again, like I was started med school and biochemistry major and I'm like you know what I just want?

01:13:55.037 --> 01:14:00.918
To write spicy romances, as it turns out and I do that it turns out that's who I want to be right, I love it.

01:14:01.179 --> 01:14:05.837
I love it so much yeah well, I hope I can do it, and then I hope y'all will read it.

01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:07.421
You're doing it you.

01:14:07.943 --> 01:14:09.685
Yeah, I cannot wait to read it.

01:14:09.685 --> 01:14:10.788
I'm so excited.

01:14:11.775 --> 01:14:12.637
I'm excited too.

01:14:12.637 --> 01:14:14.243
I am so excited.

01:14:14.243 --> 01:14:25.018
I just have to figure out, you know, do I just put it all out there under my name and like, well, is everyone in okay with me writing spicy romance and using my name?

01:14:25.018 --> 01:14:26.121
Do I use a pen name?

01:14:26.121 --> 01:14:26.622
I don't know.

01:14:26.622 --> 01:14:27.845
Do you have?

01:14:27.895 --> 01:14:28.738
thoughts Y'all are marketing.

01:14:28.738 --> 01:14:35.743
I mean I would love to see you use a pen name, but that's just like me and like I have history with you and so like.

01:14:35.743 --> 01:14:40.859
For me that makes the most sense, but that's just my like I'm not going either way.

01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:49.050
I just love the idea also of like having this alter ego that's like indulgent in this way.

01:14:49.050 --> 01:14:57.979
I just think it's fun because like, as moms, we get very like our world gets really small for a little, and then now we're all starting to like tiptoe into this.

01:14:57.979 --> 01:15:00.444
Like, actually I like Indian food.

01:15:00.444 --> 01:15:03.197
Actually I love spicy romance.

01:15:03.197 --> 01:15:13.244
I love that Actually mom isn't my only name and like it's weird because you're right, You're at school, You're at these different things and you have this one name that very much means this one thing.

01:15:13.244 --> 01:15:20.221
Like I wouldn't be surprised to see you have a secondary name that's associated with this other part of you.

01:15:20.755 --> 01:15:25.640
Well, that's what I'm leaning towards, and y'all are marketing experts, so that, you know, means a lot coming from you.

01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:29.546
That's what I'm leaning towards, also because I want to be like.

01:15:29.546 --> 01:15:51.842
Clearly I don't feel shame about it, but I'm also cognizant of the fact that, like I have children and as they get older, if someone Googles their name, is it going to be like everything I'm doing, you know, coming right up, whereas it's not that I would try to have anonymity or anything, but like maybe I don't need our family name buckled on to like I know what I love.

01:15:51.903 --> 01:16:04.822
I think once you buckle it, you can't like unbuckle it, and so if you go the other way and then you decide to like I don't know, you know like merge it all down the road, I think that's an easier step.

01:16:04.822 --> 01:16:07.606
But, yeah, I don't know how you back that up.

01:16:07.606 --> 01:16:09.609
If you actually like, go the full.

01:16:10.194 --> 01:16:11.637
I think we just made the decision.

01:16:11.637 --> 01:16:14.505
Okay, great argument and I was living that way.

01:16:14.505 --> 01:16:18.875
You're so productive, I know that's good, all right.

01:16:19.095 --> 01:16:22.005
So, this has been such a good conversation.

01:16:22.005 --> 01:16:26.356
I like, appreciate and love you so much, appreciate and love you so much they can.

01:16:26.356 --> 01:16:28.680
So, christina, I come on.

01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:41.315
Mama, your Instagram handle is C M O N period, m, a, m, a, yes, and we're starting to see you come out more and more like as a mama, but also as yourself.

01:16:41.315 --> 01:16:45.601
So this is a really interesting like way to end this conversation, cause we're we just saw you add your name.

01:16:45.601 --> 01:16:46.667
Before I always associated you with the two bears.

01:16:46.667 --> 01:16:51.764
We just saw you add your name, um, before I always associated you with the two bears, the mama bear and the little bear.

01:16:51.764 --> 01:16:52.947
That was a change.

01:16:52.947 --> 01:16:57.863
Yeah, your picture is actually here, I know that was it.

01:16:58.484 --> 01:16:58.966
I have not.

01:16:58.966 --> 01:17:02.118
I never changed it in like seven years, I think.

01:17:02.118 --> 01:17:09.355
So Anyone who's coming along now, you've been along with me personally and and and via come on, mama, for the ride.

01:17:09.355 --> 01:17:15.667
There will be a shift, because my shift is that I know what I want to be when I grow up.

01:17:15.667 --> 01:17:27.567
Now and I'm going to be that and still motherhood and mom, because that's like the root of everything that I am and everything that's most important to me, but definitely I'm, I'm.

01:17:27.567 --> 01:17:34.364
You will see a shift If I can get my book done when you get your book done when.

01:17:34.465 --> 01:17:42.798
I get and you know what that's like a feat right, because it's only in the like, the early morning hours, when it's pitch black outside or late at night.

01:17:42.798 --> 01:17:47.771
So it may be a minute, but when I get it done, you'll see that yes.

01:17:48.252 --> 01:17:48.795
And you can find me.

01:17:48.795 --> 01:17:49.917
Well, that's the thing about time.

01:17:49.917 --> 01:18:07.625
Time passes anyways, and I think like we've both become so careful about, like how we speak, I mean in the weirdest way, right to the universe, because you really do manifest your own, whether it's confidence in your kids or a love for different foods, or bringing your book to life.

01:18:07.625 --> 01:18:09.783
I mean, that's the same for the podcast.

01:18:09.783 --> 01:18:14.045
I mean truly like we could have stopped a million times.

01:18:15.335 --> 01:18:21.443
I think it's incredible that you guys are holding it down like you are Jobs, family and doing this.

01:18:21.443 --> 01:18:22.880
That's amazing to me.

01:18:23.296 --> 01:18:24.662
There's a reason it's mayhem.

01:18:26.136 --> 01:18:26.783
That's real life.

01:18:27.454 --> 01:18:32.042
That's real life, and that's that's real life and that's what resonates with people, because that is what it is.

01:18:32.042 --> 01:18:34.145
You know, I think, yeah, I don't know.

01:18:34.145 --> 01:18:37.643
Am I the other bad days since?

01:18:37.643 --> 01:18:37.842
Oh?

01:18:37.863 --> 01:18:38.225
I love it.

01:18:38.225 --> 01:18:42.997
You can say you're allowed, we are marked as explicit we are.

01:18:43.037 --> 01:18:45.523
Your kids might listen to it, so no, it's okay.

01:18:45.542 --> 01:18:46.385
It it's okay.

01:18:46.385 --> 01:18:48.109
They're used to worse words.

01:18:48.109 --> 01:18:49.621
Y'all are badasses.

01:18:49.621 --> 01:18:57.387
We definitely had to check that box in the beginning and we were like, what parameters can we live inside?

01:18:57.387 --> 01:19:00.704
So we hit comedy and explicit Love it.

01:19:02.195 --> 01:19:04.001
Those are like great avenues though.

01:19:04.001 --> 01:19:05.506
I love it and y'all are both.

01:19:05.506 --> 01:19:06.637
But no, really you guys.

01:19:06.637 --> 01:19:08.384
I'm so thankful that you had me on.

01:19:08.384 --> 01:19:09.096
This is fun.

01:19:09.096 --> 01:19:12.563
That's why I was like do we do it in person, because I'll come hang out with y'all.

01:19:12.935 --> 01:19:16.604
No, I know we need to have a coffee date or something like that, for sure.

01:19:16.604 --> 01:19:23.579
And we're probably going to have to have you back on more than once, because this is such a fun conversation and we could go forever.

01:19:24.502 --> 01:19:44.506
I mean, I'm losing, I totally could thank you thank you so much thank y'all are you kidding also like I'm walking out of this feeling like, like, hyped up and like, yeah shit let's do it for all the world today we're eating the salmon.

01:19:44.527 --> 01:19:46.168
We're eating Indian food.

01:19:46.189 --> 01:19:50.042
We got this, we're going to do all the.

01:19:50.082 --> 01:19:52.240
That's right, I love it, thank you.

01:19:52.240 --> 01:19:53.881
If anyone can do it, a mom can do it.

01:19:53.881 --> 01:19:55.320
We learned this from you.

01:19:56.475 --> 01:19:58.182
We learned that from just living our lives.

01:19:58.182 --> 01:20:01.417
And you are right, if anyone can do anything, it is.

01:20:01.417 --> 01:20:02.460
No offense to the guys.

01:20:02.460 --> 01:20:05.046
You're great guys, but it's a mom.

01:20:09.296 --> 01:20:10.118
Who's going gonna bring?

01:20:10.139 --> 01:20:13.587
it home, all right, and with that you guys are the best.

01:20:13.587 --> 01:20:14.610
See you next week.

01:20:14.610 --> 01:20:15.131
Thanks guys, bye.

01:20:15.131 --> 01:20:15.592
Thank you guys.