April 11, 2024

Aging & Social Media, Sugar Daddies & Only Fans

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We work through big feelings we’re both having about this idea of growing old (at 40) - from Golden Girls (did you know they are depicted to be in their late 40s) to the parents on the Father of the Bride. How did marketing shape our idea of aging and what does it look and feel like to age gracefully. And what about Martha Stewart and Vera Wang - beauty, brains and work ethic. In fact, Vera recently celebrated her love of working hard as well as her love from McDonald’s and her love for glazed donuts. Is there a room for people to want to continue to pursue hobbies and passions, and actually have achievements in a society where everyone tells you to slow down and to say no more and to focus on self-care?

And then, of course, we get silly as we unpack Raebecca’s sugar daddy - and the time she had to explain what a “sugar daddy” is to her 8 year old. No one panic - she made sure to say “if you stay really true to yourself” - because of course authenticity is queen around here.

Have you ever considered - truly considered - the concept that 10 people can have the same “experience” but can leave with completely different perspectives? The entire idea of marketing and even social media as that you got to control somebody’s perspective about your business or your product and so ultimately we dig into why this matters. And honestly, why are we firing teachers over their only fans accounts? Shouldn’t we be spending our time on figuring out how to get them paid properly?

And yes we know the brain is an organ - we meant you have to use your brain like you use your muscles, constantly - but also, we’re not perfect.

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Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843

00:09 - Reflecting on Aging and Perception

13:34 - Aging, Sleepovers, and Speculations

26:07 - Social Media, Human Perspective, Aging

34:53 - Exploring Unique Products and Experiences

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episode one hi hi.

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So we had like two really fun silly episodes.

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The last two oh my god, they were so fun so fun.

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12 we had a sleepover, we talked about all of the things like we got to know each other better, which I hope you guys got a kick out of.

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I mean, we're officially in our six month business ship relationship situation we really are.

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We've made it happy together oh, we're cute, we are cute.

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And then I was thinking about this this morning because we were back to not recording together.

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First of all, it actually makes the sound better, which is really unfortunate, because I love when we get to, like I know, I'm sure there's a way to figure it out.

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I just haven't had the bandwidth to like.

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I don't blame you.

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Can we talk about that, though?

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Because I'm like in my feels, which is not a thing for me.

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My bandwidth is actually really low.

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I saw this thing, though, yesterday.

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That was something about listen.

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I don't pretend to know all of the Zodiac sign Libra, moon rising, whatever but here's the short of it.

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There is something in the universe right now and it's not a retrograde where we are going to be in our feelings, and I feel it in a really big way, which I am not enjoying.

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We may have to have Christina back.

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Why are you in your failings?

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I don't know.

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I just have like actual emotions right now that I'm not enjoying Like some sadness.

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I cried yesterday and I don't really handle that well and I don't have a great reason why I'm really tired.

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I feel like I cry when I'm really tired.

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You what?

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I feel like I cry when I'm really tired or like overwhelmed.

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Yeah, I was really overwhelmed, well, and I also think not to diagnose you because I'm really tired or like overwhelmed and you did have a really busy day.

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Yeah, I was very overwhelmed, well, and I also think not to diagnose you because I'm not a therapist.

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But I feel like you have been like kind of bottling some emotions the past probably eight to 12 months, and at some point they're going to come out.

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So do you?

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Are you not subscribing to the idea that we could bottle it like a fine wine and just move on?

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No, I mean no Okay.

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Yeah, perfect, but I'm in my feelings too.

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That's so weird.

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Yeah, but I'm, I'm probably on like a different.

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So we went to the rodeo this weekend.

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Yes.

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And it was so fun.

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I love any excuse to put on cowboy boots and a QT and a bell buckle which, by the way, you should have gone because there were a lot of potential there for you.

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That's the kind of event that we could find you, a man, just saying I should have gone with you.

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What's really funny about this is the book that I listened to when I was driving to Clemson and back was about the rodeo and like buckle bunnies.

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So you just saying buckle gave me like oh, I am here for it, but yeah, you should have gone with me.

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A listener suggested it.

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After she listened to the stopover, I think I added that one to my cart.

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Okay, so I'll talk about this on the social.

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But she suggested this book for my four hour there, four hour back, and I haven't finished it.

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But let me just tell you I am so glad she actually I knew her years ago and loved her energy, but it was a great suggestion.

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So yeah, okay, I'm excited it's in my car right now.

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Okay, so yeah, we went to the rodeo and I ran into someone that I've known since fifth grade Okay, an ex-boyfriend from a long time ago Growing up hometown and it just got.

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I thought you were going to tell me you ran into like an old girlfriend.

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No it was a boy, but I guess it just got me kind of like in my feels About aging and just like how much we all change, and so I'm kind of in my feels About it, right now, oh, let me tell you, I can relate to this on such a level because I literally am like old and single.

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But you're not old, so that's my point.

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So I did some major reflecting about this.

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Okay, talk to me.

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I think we need to talk about this.

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And I do feel like I'm old.

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Wait, hang on a second, I think other people may think that I'm old, okay, but in my brain I do not feel old.

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Right, I don't feel old.

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I just worry about how people perceive my age, especially like in the dating world.

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Yeah, I hear that for you.

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I really do.

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But like I got to thinking about what this looks like, you think about what.

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Okay, one of my all-time favorite shows fun fact about me is Golden Girls.

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Always has been like even like liking golden girls was cool.

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I have been obsessed with golden girls since I was probably like as hell clark's age, like bunny as hell obsessed.

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It's good, clean, just funny humor, like I just have always loved it.

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But I got to thinking about like these women and do you know that they were depicted?

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They were supposed to be in their like late forties, early fifties, oh my.

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God, Right, Right.

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So like I'm sitting here thinking so, I grew up thinking that my late forties, early fifties, I was going to be widowed and looking old as hell wearing some tropical clothing, which I ain't mad at any of it, to be quite honest.

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I mean I don't want to be widowed, but I guess my point is like I think aging has shifted so drastically in the past probably 20 years and honestly, I got to thinking about it from a marketing perspective.

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I think it has a lot to do with marketing and social media.

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I agree.

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I will tell you this to validate your original point.

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I saw this thing where it showed the couple from father of the bride Right and and they were in their 40s and the mom's hair was that short, gray and she wore those god-awful suits and she always had, like the button, like the button up, with the sweater over it with the pearls.

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Yes, and I I was like this woman did.

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She would actually have to grab her, clutch, her pearls if she heard about my life at 40 versus hers well, that's what I'm saying.

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So, like I'm just saying I'm doing anything crazy, you guys, I just don't have that haircut or those outfits no well, and I'm thankful because I do feel like we are more youthful now.

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Um, because yeah, I just I cannot fathom dressing like that or looking like that or acting like that.

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You know, I just I find it so.

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Anyway, long story short, I'm in my feels about aging and just feeling like everybody thinks I'm old, but in my head I don't think I'm old.

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No, I, so you and I share a lot of like these.

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They're not even memes, because memes to me make it sound funny.

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But these things back and forth where we talk about like oh well, um, basically people who are really successful but didn't start their companies until they were in their forties or fifties.

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So, like Martha, Stewart is one right.

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Yeah, and then I shared, um shared a thing on my Instagram yesterday about a listener actually sent this thing about Vera Wang and her secret to like oh God, she's like such a stunner first of all, and she's so brilliant.

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And she works insanely hard, and so those are things that I feel like you and I can relate to.

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First of all, you're so pretty.

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Second of all you're sweet.

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Have you been drinking this morning?

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No, I haven't.

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But I like this idea of like being not afraid to work hard.

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I feel like a lot of people are really afraid to work hard and I feel like the idea of working hard has almost become like what's the word for like you?

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You almost like don't want to have that as a claim.

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right, people are like oh yeah, it's like um, like negative, like stigma or whatever.

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Yeah, yes, okay.

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Exactly Perfect, so I loved.

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And then she also talked about her love for McDonald's and donuts, and I was like I feel very Vera Wang.

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Right now.

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I'm like loving this Um cause I just like the idea too, in the whole article talked about how she wasn't afraid to work hard and I just I resonate.

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It resonated with me in like such a big way.

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But I was coming today to talk to you about perspective in social media and marketing and I think we're on the exact same page without even realizing it.

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I mean, I have no doubt that's why we're such a beautiful team.

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Isn't that so funny?

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And I'm like how did it happen?

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And like, how do you become the Vera Wang?

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Like the, uh, the anomaly right?

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I think you just do it because I feel like that's the essence of just like you said it started to become.

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You know, everybody wants to slow down, everybody.

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You know I feel like almost like working hard is kind of like passe.

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It's like, oh, you know you're supposed to be present and which I am, I'm present?

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I think no, jenny.

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I actually think we're more present because of how hard we work.

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Just so you know, I feel like a lot of people that use those terms are freaking out to lunch.

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Yes, like this idea that you don't contribute, that you have no passions, that you just get a lot of facials and your nails done.

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I mean, I just can't imagine how incredibly not fulfilling that would be.

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And I think we do the lunch lady duty, we go to the class picnics, we always show up.

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Our agendas are impactful Absolutely, and I think for me it's more.

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You know, I think what helps you age is is being kind of keeping sharp, like I always say.

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You know, I feel like a lot of times people don't realize that the brain is a muscle that needs to be worked, and you know I do.

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I think that's one of the reasons I love to read and have these like really you know, kind of deep conversations with people like you, because it's like you know you need to tap into that part of your brain.

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That's not.

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Oh, I get up and go to work every day.

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I come home, I make dinner, then I sit in front of the TV and stare and like that's not giving your brain any time to work, if that makes any sense.

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No, it's a quick death.

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I would definitely say death right.

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Yes, uh-huh, I can't.

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Even.

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I can tell you, I've had a conversation this weekend at the gymnastics meet with somebody who works shift work, which has almost in some ways, like a stigma, right Cause it's like shift work, except it's a great job.

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Yeah, and here's my thing.

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I was talking about this because in my retail life I basically did work that, and now we work that times two, yeah.

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Or three.

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It's like wait a minute, cause I'm really big.

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This is the perspective thing.

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Actually, I'm really big on perspective shift and like not deciding that, just because something is normalized, that that's the only perspective to have.

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Ooh.

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Yeah, right, like right now, one of my absolute favorite things and I know that you know that I do this and this is like like a secret of mine.

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That's just like not scary, but whatever.

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There is nothing I love more than fucking off a little bit on, like a Thursday morning, like if I can sleep until 930 and nobody knows, like you know, maybe two other people know but like if I and granted, granted, I'll be up until midnight some nights working, I'll work a three shift in the day kind of situation.

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But there are times where I just need to like hit, pause and reboot and I will sleep until 10 on a Thursday and get right up and get back to work and do the whole day and work twice as hard as most people that we know.

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But I live for the flexibility of doing that and like absolutely Our jobs are very flexible.

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That being said, we work more than most people I know.

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Yes, so the freedom to like have a Tuesday and maybe a Saturday isn't your Saturday because of the job that you work, but, like I will definitely take a Wednesday, that's a Saturday when everyone else has to go somewhere and clock in Something about it.

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feels so luxurious.

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I agree, but even last week.

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So we did our sleepover on what?

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Tuesday?

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Tuesday night and remember, you forgot your pillow and you had to come back and I was literally talking to somebody and I was like hold on Jenny's coming back.

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She forgot her pillow, okay.

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Well, in my defense, it's an anti-aging.

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Back to the aging silk slip.

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What's it called Slip?

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I think that's what it's called Pillow case.

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Hillary gave it to me for my 40th birthday.

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That was really sweet.

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I know she gave it to me for my 40th birthday.

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That was really sweet.

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I know she made me this whole thing for turning 40.

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It was super cute, but I was a little bit hungover the next day after our sleepover.

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And we didn't drink super excessive, it was just.

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I don't normally mix different kinds of wine and champagne, so to say I was fuzzy is like an understatement.

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We stayed up super late, which I also don't do, but we were working right.

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Yep, um, so again.

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Another beautiful part about aging is I felt like I got hit by effing mack truck the next day until like 4 pm and finally I finally started coming out of it and then my dad was like you should just have another drink and you'd probably feel better, and you know what he was right.

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I wanted to meet your dad for Mexican.

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I was like I know yeah, a margarita probably would have put me back in neutral, but I was.

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I was a little fuzzy, I'm not gonna lie.

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But can we just talk about another thing, about aging that I feel like we kind of lose, like why don't we have sleepovers, like I had?

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so much fun with you, we had the best time, and so that that when I actually got the chance to say to somebody like, oh, I had a, somebody said what did you get into last night?

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Which is like such a good question for me in general, because I'm if you know me at all, I am like a raccoon, Cause you never know.

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Yeah, no, I know and I really am like a raccoon.

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I think my actual like spirit animal is a little bit more raccoon than I thought it was.

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I can see that about you, you what I can see that about you.

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I just am thinking about it.

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When they said, what did you get into, I'm like really never know.

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Yeah, no, you don't.

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The best part is I'll tell you.

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I'm like the raccoon coming out of the garbage can with, like, the thing in its hand.

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Like I'll straight up tell you, too, what I got into with the mascara.

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Yeah, but like when they said, I was like, oh, I had a sleepover with my friend, with jenny.

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They were like wait what?

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And then later I oh, hold on, I can't talk right now Like Jenny's coming back to get her pillow and I wanted to like be present when you were here, cause we were going to obviously like catch up a little bit about the night that we just had together.

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And they were like wait, you really forgot your pillow.

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I was like I don't think you understand, we really had a sleepover.

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It was the most fun, but like, why don't we do stuff like that anymore?

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Like you get older and I feel like people just lose their silly and their ability to play and their ability to like, yeah, like I love a sleepover.

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I think it's just so fun and I feel like, yeah, it was my idea, I love a sleepover.

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Yeah, you were pumped the minute you figured out that I was like I actually okay.

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So there's one more thing and this is perfect timing to talk about.

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I want to talk about the fact that you thought that I had a sugar daddy because I was not being totally forthcoming for like the first four months of our relationship and I was just casually not talking about vague.

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I was, yeah, I was just like I would have these meetings or I had this person in my life, but I couldn't like talk to you about them and like full circle.

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I just want you guys to understand.

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The person was actually my divorce attorney, but I wasn't ready to talk about the fact that I was so far down this thing that was happening.

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But you had them.

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You took it and ran with it.

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I really thought you had a sugar daddy.

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I was like far down, this thing that was happening, but you took it and ran with it.

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I really thought you had a sugar daddy.

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I was like hell yeah.

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I was like get in this investor, girl.

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I didn't even care.

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I was like, girl, we got a podcast to produce.

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You're like what is it Feed?

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What do you have?

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That's good, Take pictures of it, put it up there.

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No, I would never do that.

00:17:43.733 --> 00:17:44.178
That is so bizarre.

00:17:44.178 --> 00:17:45.307
Although, put it up there no, I would never do that.

00:17:45.307 --> 00:17:45.710
That is so bizarre.

00:17:45.710 --> 00:17:57.712
Although people make like bank, you would never do it no okay no, unless it was like an ear or something, I wouldn't mind looking here.

00:17:58.315 --> 00:18:02.894
I can't be sexual about an ear listen, there are some weirdos out there.

00:18:02.974 --> 00:18:04.038
You never know, I know.

00:18:04.038 --> 00:18:16.462
But I know, like all these articles about these teachers who are like getting fired because they have only fans and I'm like if you would pay these freaking people a decent, livable wage, they wouldn't have to do only fans.

00:18:16.462 --> 00:18:17.270
So don't fire them.

00:18:17.270 --> 00:18:18.294
It pisses me off.

00:18:18.334 --> 00:18:23.435
I don't even understand why we're firing people over and only fans like she's not taking the pictures at school.

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I don don't really understand why it's not porn.

00:18:24.900 --> 00:18:29.503
I guess it could be.

00:18:29.690 --> 00:18:30.612
Yeah, no, I agree.

00:18:31.032 --> 00:18:31.594
Isn't it her business?

00:18:31.614 --> 00:18:35.762
Yeah, I really did I thought you had a sugar daddy, which, again, I wasn't mad at.

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I wasn't mad at it.

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I don't know, though, but I will say, can I just in my defense, I speculated, and I think this is probably I'm probably not the only person who does this.

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So if you see a couple where one person is super active on social media and they never talk about their spouse they don't post pictures like I call that shit.

00:19:00.904 --> 00:19:05.137
A mile away, I'm like, oh, it's coming.

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I tell Nate every time I speculate, I'm like, uh-oh, uh-oh, it's coming.

00:19:09.166 --> 00:19:14.132
I tell Nate every time I speculate, I'm like they're getting divorced.

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He's like, no, I've called like five people who've done this and I've been right every time.

00:19:16.958 --> 00:19:33.957
But I really didn't post about it, about him even that much before, because he doesn't like social media and I can almost guarantee you that whatever is next, you're not going to see on social very much Like my brand is really like myself, I agree, but still as a raccoon?

00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:34.960
I don't know.

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Still Like I don't know.

00:19:37.152 --> 00:19:37.833
I just knew.

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I knew I saw the train coming.

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I did, I called it.

00:19:41.798 --> 00:19:46.005
You can ask Nate, I'm like I guarantee they're splitting up soon.

00:19:46.710 --> 00:19:52.970
No, I just loved that you really thought that, because for a little bit I just said I had to be downtown and I was going to be unavailable.

00:19:53.069 --> 00:19:54.396
You were so elusive.

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I literally was like I'm going to be unavailable for a few hours, but I'll get back to you as soon as I'm finished and, like I did have a little bit of fun with it because you were like having fun back.

00:20:03.496 --> 00:20:05.116
Oh my gosh, because I'm so nosy.

00:20:05.116 --> 00:20:09.799
No, it's like Nate calls me nosy, but I say I'm just curious.

00:20:09.799 --> 00:20:11.421
I'm maybe a little bit nosy.

00:20:12.061 --> 00:20:15.463
And then you were like hard speculating.

00:20:15.463 --> 00:20:16.605
So you're like, who is that?

00:20:16.605 --> 00:20:20.567
I was like it's an investor and you're like, is that what we're calling sugar daddies now?

00:20:20.567 --> 00:20:24.536
And it was so much fun for me, it was so funny.

00:20:24.536 --> 00:20:30.076
Oh yeah, it reminds me of a story when, so a year ago, I had the girls in the car and we were going to.

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This story is ridiculous, so bear with me.

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Our main babysitter is in marching band.

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She's amazing.

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So I was taking the girls because we the three of us do everything together to go and see a performance.

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I'm drunk and I don't want to go home was on the radio and I like it wasn't even on the radio, it was on my Spotify.

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I listened to it all the time.

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It's like got a fun beat, I like to work out to it.

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Pilot goes what's a sugar daddy?

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Oh, I I know, jenny, you're going to die when you hear how I answered.

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I didn't.

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Even my mom and Matt.

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Both were like why didn't you say it's candy?

00:21:05.023 --> 00:21:15.090
First of all, you know, I'm like very candid about life.

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This is what I said.

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I was like well, so sometimes if a man is significantly more wealthy than you and he really enjoys your company and there are things that keep you from him, like work or distractions or things that stress you out, and so he doesn't get the same amount of time with you that he would like.

00:21:33.932 --> 00:21:43.796
If you stay really true to yourself, he'll start taking care of those things for you so that you can be with him more.

00:21:45.078 --> 00:21:46.722
I think that was a beautiful explanation.

00:21:46.722 --> 00:21:51.037
Yes, I really do, Cause I'm the same way with Clark.

00:21:51.037 --> 00:21:52.480
Like I don't sugarcoat stuff.

00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:57.259
It's like okay, Like she even asked me at the rodeo this weekend.

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She was like why are the bulls Like?

00:21:58.923 --> 00:22:00.153
Why do they buck like that?

00:22:00.153 --> 00:22:02.117
I'm like cause they tie up their balls.

00:22:02.117 --> 00:22:03.642
She's like what?

00:22:03.642 --> 00:22:07.731
Like because they tie up their balls.

00:22:07.731 --> 00:22:08.051
She's like what?

00:22:08.051 --> 00:22:12.259
Because she just learned about testicles in in that class and they said that a nickname of it was balls.

00:22:12.259 --> 00:22:19.400
So I felt like I could tell her about the bulls balls and she was like, oh god, does that hurt?

00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:24.740
I'm like, clearly, clearly it does so like this is like the funniest thing.

00:22:24.740 --> 00:22:27.369
So she pilot goes have you ever had a sugar daddy?

00:22:27.369 --> 00:22:34.198
And I was like no, that's why I won't let anyone call me high maintenance, because the only person that maintains me is myself.

00:22:34.198 --> 00:22:35.201
Amen.

00:22:35.201 --> 00:22:40.410
So she was like huh, and I'm like sometimes I think about these things.

00:22:40.410 --> 00:22:45.394
Like the other day she asked me if she could wear mascara and I don't know if this was the right response, I know.

00:22:45.394 --> 00:22:49.439
So I was like sure, like totally, but I want to tell you the secret to wearing mascara.

00:22:49.439 --> 00:22:50.840
And she was like okay, what is it?

00:22:50.840 --> 00:22:54.463
And I said everybody knows that once you put it on, you can't cry.

00:22:54.463 --> 00:22:57.027
And that was probably like Christina's going to kill me.

00:22:57.027 --> 00:23:03.578
That was probably like not the best response.

00:23:03.578 --> 00:23:04.681
And she goes.

00:23:04.840 --> 00:23:07.394
It's not for me Good for her, though I appreciate that.

00:23:07.789 --> 00:23:11.161
We just killed the mascara conversation until like eighth grade, hopefully.

00:23:11.990 --> 00:23:15.280
I hate mascara, which is why I have eyelash extensions, because I cry.

00:23:15.280 --> 00:23:16.935
I mean I cry all the time.

00:23:16.935 --> 00:23:19.410
I mean I definitely did that?

00:23:19.770 --> 00:23:20.354
Do you ever cry?

00:23:20.354 --> 00:23:25.699
Besides yesterday, I do more than I used to.

00:23:27.050 --> 00:23:28.939
What makes you cry Like is that too personal?

00:23:30.631 --> 00:23:36.287
Like what made me cry yesterday I don't even know, I get, I feel like right now I couldn't even like pinpoint something like.

00:23:36.287 --> 00:23:47.301
But I'm also the same person where, if I like, like the other day I saw a car actually like hit a fawn and it didn't die right away and I like lost my mind.

00:23:47.301 --> 00:23:52.670
So stuff like that, like animals, um something bad happening to children.

00:23:52.670 --> 00:23:55.138
Like I can't watch the news, I don't watch the news.

00:23:55.138 --> 00:23:57.396
I don't engage in any of that, I just can't either.

00:23:58.179 --> 00:23:58.800
Too hard.

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Life is hard enough.

00:24:00.295 --> 00:24:03.878
Um, somebody being mean to me is not going to make me cry.

00:24:04.570 --> 00:24:05.536
Yeah, I don't see that about you.

00:24:09.294 --> 00:24:13.260
But then I started listening to 90s country, which apparently was resolved.

00:24:13.803 --> 00:24:14.463
Ain't nothing better.

00:24:14.463 --> 00:24:17.058
Ain't nothing better.

00:24:17.651 --> 00:24:18.454
So this is what I did.

00:24:18.454 --> 00:24:22.340
I went down the rabbit hole and I just was like well, Christina said we're going to feel our feelings.

00:24:22.340 --> 00:24:27.421
I'm going to pour a glass of wine, put on some Vince Gill, we're going to go all the way.

00:24:27.421 --> 00:24:29.636
Oh God, you got like deep in it.

00:24:29.636 --> 00:24:31.996
I think it's super deep.

00:24:31.996 --> 00:24:35.259
I definitely ended up with two dozen roses, because I always do Stop.

00:24:35.549 --> 00:24:35.609
As.

00:24:35.650 --> 00:24:38.258
Shannon Doe has my heart in such a way.

00:24:38.278 --> 00:24:41.471
Oh my God, 90s country was the best Like.

00:24:41.471 --> 00:24:42.355
What a time to live.

00:24:46.569 --> 00:24:49.797
Oh my God, chasing that neon rainbow, I literally went so far down the rabbit hole yesterday.

00:24:49.797 --> 00:24:51.160
Okay, so back to marketing.

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What I was going to say was I was thinking about this perspective shift, and I was thinking about the shift work thing and perspective in general.

00:24:59.634 --> 00:25:17.897
And now you're talking about the aging thing and I think the most important part of marketing but then also going a little bit further, social media is this idea that you actually get to control the perspective, and that's one of the reasons why I think it's so important that everybody has it.

00:25:17.897 --> 00:25:23.587
Huh, so I drove by a funeral home yesterday.

00:25:23.689 --> 00:25:26.913
I almost pulled over to take a picture for you.

00:25:29.684 --> 00:25:31.127
Yes, it wasn't even a funeral home.

00:25:31.127 --> 00:25:32.692
Actually it was a headstones place.

00:25:32.692 --> 00:25:42.441
It was like a shed and it said the sale office above the shed, and then there were headstones everywhere.

00:25:42.441 --> 00:25:46.373
I mean I was way out there, this was in, like this was between Anderson and home.

00:25:46.373 --> 00:25:47.877
So I have no idea where I was.

00:25:47.877 --> 00:25:49.281
I was in the middle of nowhere.

00:25:49.863 --> 00:25:58.929
They almost took the picture, cause I was like I bet you I could create in 12 slides a killer Instagram and then you walk up and it looks like that.

00:25:58.929 --> 00:26:05.351
So then I started thinking about I almost pulled over and like took enough pictures to mock up a fake Instagram to show you how.

00:26:05.351 --> 00:26:15.750
But then I started thinking about this idea that that is the importance of social media, and I don't mean to use it in a manipulative or false way.

00:26:15.750 --> 00:26:18.549
But let's say you only got enough money for that shit.

00:26:18.549 --> 00:26:22.090
That does not mean that you cannot build that brand and that business.

00:26:22.090 --> 00:26:24.948
I would have done it for that man for free.

00:26:24.948 --> 00:26:36.046
Yeah, because there was something about it that just was giving me a vibe and I really I kept looking at the clock and I was like I should turn around, I should go back, I should do it, I would kill it at this.

00:26:36.881 --> 00:26:43.546
I think the only thing that I'm going to it's not even like I'm not disagreeing with you, it's just more of a thought.

00:26:43.546 --> 00:26:46.272
The thing about that is perspective.

00:26:46.272 --> 00:26:51.281
I feel like everybody interprets things differently.

00:26:51.281 --> 00:27:02.192
So, whereas I love you and I think you're hilarious when you post things, I laugh, I support, I applaud because I'm reading for you.

00:27:02.192 --> 00:27:13.271
I support, I applaud because I'm reading for you, but then the next person who isn't a Rebecca fan but follows you because they nosy, has a completely different, different perspective of you.

00:27:13.271 --> 00:27:29.503
So I guess that's my challenge with social media is like it doesn't matter what you put out, it's the lens that people filter their own opinions and which, again, is we kind of talked about blocking, so that that's my only argument.

00:27:29.503 --> 00:27:37.950
There is that I feel like you can control the narrative as much as possible, but, like, at the end of the day, people are going to see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear.

00:27:38.621 --> 00:27:40.847
But don't you think that's true for everything?

00:27:40.847 --> 00:27:57.568
And I actually I was saying this last week about somebody I don't even remember what context it was was kind of asking me about my just like I'm obsessed with people, right, like psychology was part of what I went to college for, like I loved that part about retail, even like watching people.

00:27:57.568 --> 00:28:03.071
You and I share this, this obsession with like human behavior, like it's our favorite thing about going out to dinner.

00:28:03.071 --> 00:28:09.582
It's like human behavior.

00:28:09.582 --> 00:28:10.884
Jenny and I will sit at your table for three hours.

00:28:10.884 --> 00:28:11.185
Do not kill us.

00:28:11.185 --> 00:28:12.008
We'll analyze everybody around us.

00:28:12.008 --> 00:28:12.269
It's so good.

00:28:12.288 --> 00:28:24.013
But I have this perspective that, like you, can put 10 people in a situation and every single one of them can come out of it with a completely different perspective on what just happened.

00:28:24.013 --> 00:28:37.089
Yeah, I just don't believe this idea that we all walk into a situation and then we all walk out and we had the same experience is such low level thinking for me.

00:28:37.089 --> 00:28:52.921
I just don't think that that allows for any of the bandwidth of the actual human experience, like to to walk through anything, even if it's just like a dinner or a relationship, right, or first grade or whatever it is like.

00:28:52.921 --> 00:29:03.548
There's absolutely no way that you can sit there and assume that all nine of your people that went through the same experience had the actual same experience.

00:29:03.548 --> 00:29:07.074
It's just such a low level thought process for me.

00:29:07.534 --> 00:29:08.315
Yeah, I agree.

00:29:08.315 --> 00:29:10.479
Yeah.

00:29:10.500 --> 00:29:12.909
But I think social allows us to control that a little bit.

00:29:14.840 --> 00:29:15.584
I just don't care.

00:29:15.584 --> 00:29:16.647
I'm going to be honest with you.

00:29:17.099 --> 00:29:23.262
I just I'm getting to the point where she's like, I like the idea of it being a marketing perspective, like you get to give a perspective.

00:29:23.262 --> 00:29:25.365
I don't care about what people think about me.

00:29:25.365 --> 00:29:27.387
I the idea of it being a marketing perspective, like you get to give a perspective.

00:29:27.387 --> 00:29:28.809
I don't care about what people think about me, I do.

00:29:28.809 --> 00:29:29.309
I am on your block train.

00:29:29.309 --> 00:29:30.010
I've gone through almost every day.

00:29:30.010 --> 00:29:30.672
Yeah, helped a few people.

00:29:30.731 --> 00:29:55.133
Just talk to your people whether it's in life or whether it's in marketing, whether it's in business, I just think you find your people and you talk to them and I think a lot of that kind of shift in knowing who your people are Again, I hate to bring it full circle, but I do think that's just part of getting older and just realizing that not everybody's going to love you, Not everybody's going to like you.

00:29:55.133 --> 00:30:04.193
You're eventually going to hurt somebody's feelings, You're going to piss somebody off, but it just as long as you're you know, true to yourself and not an a-hole.

00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.567
True to yourself like the sugar daddy.

00:30:08.300 --> 00:30:09.928
Be true to yourself like a sugar daddy, yeah.

00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:12.848
As long as you stay true to yourself.

00:30:12.848 --> 00:30:14.928
I was like trying to think about how to say this.

00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:28.204
But would you okay, like let's get real Would you ever, ever be able to do the sugar daddy thing, Like not work, travel the world, let somebody whine and dine you.

00:30:28.220 --> 00:30:28.703
I'm not making a picture.

00:30:28.703 --> 00:30:29.672
That sounds really fun.

00:30:32.287 --> 00:30:33.130
I don't think I could do it.

00:30:33.130 --> 00:30:35.724
I could have done it, probably when I was younger, but I don't know if I could do it now.

00:30:38.402 --> 00:30:44.846
I just feel like what I hear when I hear those things is like a lot of compromise.

00:30:44.846 --> 00:30:57.240
I feel like it's a lot of control, which I'm not the best it would require me to compromise a lot, and I've already done that, so I'm not doing that again.

00:30:58.102 --> 00:31:02.265
Yeah, no, I don't think I could probably could have done it if I was like 23, 23, 24.

00:31:04.486 --> 00:31:05.326
Yeah, but that's even yeah.

00:31:07.489 --> 00:31:13.992
Because I mean, back then it was like, oh, you know, I don't care, sure, Take me around the world, like that sounds great.

00:31:14.834 --> 00:31:16.494
Can't we just go around the world together?

00:31:16.494 --> 00:31:18.257
Anyways, jenny, like do I?

00:31:18.277 --> 00:31:19.657
just I don't yeah.

00:31:19.657 --> 00:31:25.265
But I don't want to pay for it.

00:31:25.265 --> 00:31:27.638
Becca, I wouldn't be mad if somebody was like I'm going to wine and dine you around the world.

00:31:27.679 --> 00:31:30.765
Okay, I think you are going to pay for it and I think we are going to go.

00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:36.210
Well, I better start selling feet pics on OnlyFans.

00:31:37.601 --> 00:31:38.445
I'll put some pics up.

00:31:38.526 --> 00:31:43.085
It's fine, I'm going to have to yeah, the ear is not going to cut it.

00:31:43.085 --> 00:31:52.779
If we're going to go travel the world, I'm going to have to get a little more creative with my body parts.

00:31:52.779 --> 00:31:55.749
Oh Lord, all right, here we go.

00:31:55.749 --> 00:32:00.026
Season number two, episode 13.

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Perspective shift and aging gracefully.

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